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Author Topic: 2023 Chilliwack River fall salmon fishery information & water condition updates  (Read 41667 times)

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The fall salmon fishery in Chilliwack/Vedder River takes place between late August and early December. This thread provides background information of this fishery as well as ongoing updates so those who are new to the fishery can have a chance to enjoy what this river has to offer by learning proper techniques, staying informed on regulations and etiquettes.


Fish species

Four salmon species are found in this river during these months in 2023, but only some can be targeted and/or retained.



Fishing regulations

The salmon regulations of Chilliwack River, including the daily quota of each species, can be found in Region 2 of the Freshwater salmon supplement.


Cultus Lake sockeye salmon alert

Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are endangered and usually enter the Chilliwack River in late summer so their run time overlaps with other fall salmon species. All sockeye salmon caught in the Chilliwack River are required to be released carefully. Please be aware of the difference between a coho and a sockeye salmon. Some Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are also missing their adipose fin so please don't confuse them with hatchery-marked coho salmon. Read about it some more...


How to float fish more effectively for coho salmon?

To effectively catch salmon on the Vedder by float fishing, you want to keep your offerings in the strike zone. New anglers have a tendency to mistaken the strike zone as the depth where the fish are sitting. It is not. Salmonids look up and strike at the offerings above them. The fish position themselves near the bottom, so the strike zone is usually 1 or 2 feet above the river bed. This technique does not only apply to the Chilliwack River, but also other Lower Fraser River tributaries.

Gear setup

Rod:9' to 10'6" baitcasting or centerpin rod, rated between 8 and 20lb
Reel:Small baitcasting reels or centerpin reels
Main line:12 to 15lb test
Leader:6 to 10lb test
Hook:Size 4 to 2/0

The diagrams below illustrate the correct and not-so-correct ways of float depth adjustment.

Excessive length of leader



For some reason, many people believe a longer leader would produce more fish, quite the opposite! Your hook will always travel faster than your weight in a river. By using a long leader, your hook and bait are lifted up higher from the river bed, away from the strike zone.

Excessive float depth



Some choose to adjust their float depth so the weight is "tapping" or sitting on the bottom. The weight will usually anchor itself to the river bed, while the float drifts slowly or becomes stationary. Two things will result from this setup:

  • You'll snag onto the bottom, and lose your weight, hook and bait.
  • Even worse, you'll end up snagging a pink or chinook in the belly or tail, which can be time consuming to bring in and release.

My way of float adjustment, but not necessarily the ONLY way



So far this has worked very well by producing about a dozen or more coho each season on the Vedder River without losing any hook, weight or line. I usually like to keep my leader length (the line between the hook and weight) around 1.5 feet in length. Judging the depth by looking at the gradient of the river bank and the water, I adjust my float depth (the length from the float to the hook) so that it is about 1 to 2 feet shorter than the actual depth. When this is drifted, the bait will lift a few inches higher, remaining in the strike zone. When the float dips under the water, there is no hesitation as I don't need to question whether it is a snag or a fish. The hook is usually set hard and most of the time the fight is on.



Some other small adjustments

I find these adjustments would connect me into more fish in the past.

  • The float size varies, small (11 grams) in clearer, slower water, while big (25 grams) in faster, deeper water.
  • Tie on enough weight so only about 0.5 inch of your float (or the coloured tip) emerges on the water surface. This allows you to detect the bites sooner.
  • Keep your main line (the line between your rod tip and your float) tight enough without disrupting the drift. Always try to avoid having any line laying on the water surface.
  • Keep the drifts short. A longer drift doesn't necessarily mean a bigger chance to catch a fish. Long drifts also cause inconvenience for nearby anglers
  • Avoid standing in the water, especially when you arrive at a new location. Undisturbed fish have a tendency to stay close to the river bank.


Video resources

Some videos to get you started.



Water condition updates

Throughout the season, members will post up water condition updates so everyone can be alerted if condition is not ideal. Please feel free to post updates in this thread after your trips. We can all benefit from each other's updates and save gasoline and cost of our season. Please do not ask for updates. All requests will be deleted.

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The coho salmon fishing has been very good so far, hopefully the strong early return will continue throughout the season. Here is one of several hatchery coho salmon I managed to find this past week.



And a pair from this weekend.

https://www.tiktok.com/@fishingwithrod/video/7282449365824736518
« Last Edit: September 24, 2023, 08:57:56 PM by Rodney »
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Continuing from what Jelly was saying, when targeting chinooks most people float fish roe, beads, or wool, but they can also be caught on hardware floated or casted. They can be aggressive at times but I think usually because of where they sit in the run it can be hard to get lures in the right spot.

My weather app shows 100 mm of rain until friday.  :o Here comes the shitstorm
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Sorry everyone, I haven't had a chance to start this season's thread until now. I'm going to close this one and continue all posts at:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=45069.0

That was actually a useful vedder thread that's going to be buried now since you closed it (not sure why). But can you include those posts in this thread since Phronesis actually made the effort to create the thread. Thanks.
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That was actually a useful vedder thread that's going to be buried now since you closed it (not sure why). But can you include those posts in this thread since Phronesis actually made the effort to create the thread. Thanks.
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Could have just made a post on the existing thread. 
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Well, I do like to be in control. 😆

I wanted the first post to have that same info each year for consistency, it wouldn’t have been possible to do with the other thread.

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Continuing from what Jelly was saying, when targeting chinooks most people float fish roe, beads, or wool, but they can also be caught on hardware floated or casted. They can be aggressive at times but I think usually because of where they sit in the run it can be hard to get lures in the right spot.

My weather app shows 100 mm of rain until friday.  :o Here comes the shitstorm
Thanks Darko, I appreciate it! I guess ill have to start hunting down some deep pools for chinooks now  ;D
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River was on fire today, guess all the fish were waiting for the rain, got 1 coho and 3 chinooks on 12mm BNR mottled red soft bead. All of them were fishing decently except for one guy with deep float and long leader who lost too many fish and hooks.
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River has coloured up quite a bit this morning while it didn’t rise much.

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Just got worse in the last 30 minutes...

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Just got worse in the last 30 minutes...

Muddy, I'll take it though in contrast to last year with no rain and smoky days. The ground being so dry not surprised there's run off colouring up the river instead of absorption
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Pretty busy for a Tuesday morning ;D
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Pretty busy for a Tuesday morning ;D
I'm assuming those are the graveyard shift crowd  ;)
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Looking at the number of chums they netted so far this year in the Fraser, it doesn't look very abundant.  That's unfortunate.
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