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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #300 on: August 31, 2023, 03:04:21 PM »

FYI

Pink fisheries were just approved and announcements/fisheries notices to be posted shortly.
just saw they posted a notice for the Thompson, will probably be refreshing for next 5 hours  ;D
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #301 on: August 31, 2023, 03:12:59 PM »

You're a charter guy aren't you?
No, just a poor choice in user names years ago.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #302 on: August 31, 2023, 03:28:40 PM »

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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #303 on: August 31, 2023, 03:33:12 PM »

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=288821&ID=all

Waters: Chilliwack/Vedder River (including Sumas River)from a line between two fishing boundary signs on either side of the Chilliwack River 100 m from the confluence of the Chilliwack River and Slesse Creek downstream including that portion of the Sumas River from the Barrow Town Pump Station downstream to fishing boundary signs near the confluence with the Fraser River, with exception of "no fishing for salmon" closure area currently in place.

Waters: Harrison River (from the Hwy 7 bridge downstream to the confluence with the Fraser River).

Waters: Stave River (downstream of BC Hydro Dam to the CPR Railway bridge).

Effective September 1 until September 30, 2023:
- The daily limit for Pink salmon is two (2).
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #304 on: August 31, 2023, 03:56:54 PM »

so from nowhere to almost everywhere open in the blink of an eye. More than enough passed through the lower Fraser recently to have an opening if there is now enough to have an opening all the way to and including the south Thompson.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #305 on: August 31, 2023, 03:58:12 PM »

Funny how DFO "works". Not really science based but which user group yells the loudest.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #306 on: August 31, 2023, 04:04:01 PM »

So when does everyone start crying because FN nets are also out along with beach seine efforts in the lower vedder? 🤔
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #307 on: August 31, 2023, 04:06:06 PM »

So when does everyone start crying because FN nets are also out along with beach seine efforts in the lower vedder? 🤔

the Sumas nation has a decent plan in place, no reason to to cry about anything really.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #308 on: August 31, 2023, 04:06:59 PM »

your off the mark on this on Ralph, what rec actually asked for is a week before that and it was declined, DFO said to wait for a higher ratio of pinks and local staff met, resource managers etc and declined it, last weekend met all the boxes and was approved.

Higher ratio of pink to sockeye, check, little to no intercept of stocks of concern check, was approved at reviewed by resource managers to a high level.

in the end politics got in the way

and it was not done by anglers, it was done by an internal DFO team that meets

This was outside of the SFAB/SFAC process

this internal team has again met and put together another proposal with dates.

will see what happens

Your just annoyed because DFO has came out and said that this is 100% delayed by first nations and that its a polotical decision. Some people within the department are very upset that this is not the way in season fisheries should be managed and basically an order went out saying to back off.

it is what it is saying we now need an independent peer reviewed paper in order to have a rec fishery. Is that not what the resource managers in dfo are for, to make those informed decisions.

I would say more but those in the department have already been warned that they could be reprimanded if they push this more.

all also meaningless & none of it 'science' based

It's all open as of tomorrow but you are still squawking.  I am sure that's science based too. How about some science based photos to show us you actually take part in this fishery!
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #309 on: August 31, 2023, 04:07:20 PM »

Funny how DFO "works". Not really science based but which user group yells the loudest.

it's all about which group has the power to tell DFO what to do and there is only one group.
Yelling and crying won't make anything happen.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #310 on: August 31, 2023, 04:09:12 PM »

so from nowhere to almost everywhere open in the blink of an eye.


it took them 10 days to find the electric typewriter
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #311 on: August 31, 2023, 04:17:02 PM »

Funny how DFO "works". Not really science based but which user group yells the loudest.

Non tidal was suppose to be a week later and only from hope bridge down, what happens when things become political.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #312 on: August 31, 2023, 04:41:41 PM »


it took them 10 days to find the electric typewriter

Herein lies the problem. Typewriters were all manual; IIRC there were never electric.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #313 on: August 31, 2023, 04:45:22 PM »

OMG......
Two things had to happen...
1 enough fish.... 
2 FN say yes...
ITS THAT SIMPLE
This is just the beginning.  FN will be closing down access to many areas just because they can...
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #314 on: August 31, 2023, 04:55:27 PM »

On Tuesday I spent a few hours scouting the lower river to see what has changed…every run I visited is different from last year…did not hook or spot a salmon anywhere…hopefully soon…
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