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[IronNoggin]

This pretty much sums it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izbUjScUwyA

[adriaticum]

Good one.
Unfortunately this is nothing new.
These agreements also exist between the provinces.
They are designed to "protect investments" in both countries.
In other words, those who own the companies can do what ever they want in another country and in return they will let some other rich industrialists do whatever they want in their country.
When everything turns to waste they will just move out and the rest of us will remain picking up the scraps from the pile.

[Ed]

To sum it up, this is the result of capitalism! It just sucks our economy relies on selling our resources..

[ynot]

feel free to live in a better country, these agrements have been in place with about 20 other countries for quite a time.

[IronNoggin]

... these agrements have been in place with about 20 other countries for quite a time.

NOT anywhere even close to the same extent as this private not-so-little deal will be!
Doing a little homework before spouting off usually makes one look much less The Fool:

"By Nov. 1 three of China's national oil companies will have more power to shape Canada's energy markets as well as challenge the politics of this country than Canadians themselves…
Also a Link to the Full text of this "deal". Have a read, there has NEVER been such a deal in Canadian History that gives away so much...
http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Federal-Politics/2012/10/14/China-Canada-Agreement/

It really takes your ability of public policy out of public interest hands, being the government, and puts into private investor hands.
A VERY Interesting Read with related links. Worth your time to peruse...
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/sustainability/chinese-companies-can-sue-bc-changing-course-northern-gateway-says-policy-expert

More background...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/what-if-nexen-coveted-cnooc/article4575332/

If you manage to digest the information contained in the above, and still have the same mindset, I'd welcome the opportunity to discuss...

Cheers,
Nog

[Ed]

This sucks.. but it is just how the world is these days. Developed countries have been investing in third world countries with the main purpose of controlling their resources for a very long time right now. It just sucks right now that we are getting the bad end of the deal. I'm sure the natives didn't get many options when settlers came and took over their land.

[ynot]

kevin o'leary likes it, cant be bad.

[adriaticum]

Somebody's head has to roll over this

[bcguy]

This sucks.. but it is just how the world is these days. Developed countries have been investing in third world countries with the main purpose of controlling their resources for a very long time right now. It just sucks right now that we are getting the bad end of the deal. I'm sure the natives didn't get many options when settlers came and took over their land.

It doesnt make it right, and one day when 90% of the apathetic attitudes of Canadians change we may get enough people to raise thier voices to make the changes. But as long as we have our gadgets like Iphones and a regular income nothing else matters, and corporations will continue to rape our resources and export them with little or no value added processing, which is ironic given most have children to hand this mess down to. 50 years ago a regular working man could afford to have his wife at home with the children..how many on this board can say they can afford to do this anymore with any hope of owning a house, how long until cheap imported labour changes this and the give away of our resources changes this even further?
One day you can look at your children and tell them you were just too busy to prevent this because it was too inconvienient for you to do anything about it at the time

[Ed]

It doesnt make it right, and one day when 90% of the apathetic attitudes of Canadians change we may get enough people to raise thier voices to make the changes. But as long as we have our gadgets like Iphones and a regular income nothing else matters, and corporations will continue to rape our resources and export them with little or no value added processing, which is ironic given most have children to hand this mess down to. 50 years ago a regular working man could afford to have his wife at home with the children..how many on this board can say they can afford to do this anymore with any hope of owning a house, how long until cheap imported labour changes this and the give away of our resources changes this even further?
One day you can look at your children and tell them you were just too busy to prevent this because it was too inconvienient for you to do anything about it at the time

Yes your words sound very righteous, lets hope you will take action to stop our resources from being sold. In the past we've signed deals that has screwed us over like NAFTA, and sadly we will be making the same mistake again.

[ynot]

How many want to go back 50 yrs ,dont tell me we were better off then than now, and you want women to stay at home, i dont think that will fly in 2012.

[absolon]

50 years ago we were better off. The economy was booming, living wages that allowed a single income to support a family were the norm rather than the exception, less concentration of wealth and income at the top meant that the benefits of society were shared and resulted in more social cohesion and the probability that the next generation would be better off than the current generation was real instead of an illusion.

Mind you, we didn't have big screen TVs, iPhones, monster houses and automobiles that do everything except wipe your bottom nor did we have a society financed with debt and dependent on increases in that debt to finance continuing economic growth. Nor did we have a political system that served business interests rather than the interests of society as a whole.

Being better off involves a whole lot more than just high levels of consumption.

[ynot]

life expectancy 1n 1962  males 68 females 74    now males 79 females 83     11 more years to fish.     no medicare till 1965 across canada ,you can keep it.

[curious]

eom

[Ed]

50 years ago we were better off. The economy was booming, living wages that allowed a single income to support a family were the norm rather than the exception, less concentration of wealth and income at the top meant that the benefits of society were shared and resulted in more social cohesion and the probability that the next generation would be better off than the current generation was real instead of an illusion.

Mind you, we didn't have big screen TVs, iPhones, monster houses and automobiles that do everything except wipe your bottom nor did we have a society financed with debt and dependent on increases in that debt to finance continuing economic growth. Nor did we have a political system that served business interests rather than the interests of society as a whole.

Being better off involves a whole lot more than just high levels of consumption.

50 years ago, globalization was not as evident as it is now. The economy was booming because workers/labourers were not competing against anybody else outside of Canada. 50 years ago, seeing foreigners (chinese, persian, etc) living in the British Properties (West Vancouver) was also unheard of. 50 years ago, numerous countries just gained their independence from the colonial period.

50 years ago might have been better off for you, but now the rest of the world is better off. I'd much rather live in todays world..