i d have to agree with bugpumper,damn it was cold in the morning.all most cold enough to get back in the car,almost.any way we didnt have much luck,i hooked onto a nice steelie and had the fight of my life,for about 5 min,then my leader broke,doh.my bud had pretty much the same but we didn t even get a look at his.water(big surprise) is low and clear,by noon it was almost sun tanning weather,explored some of the lower river today(my first time) saw a little nice water but to many poeple,cheers and tight lines.