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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2020, 08:52:47 PM »

The move towards allocating a greater % of the salmon catch to FN fishers has been going on for well over a decade. I'm sure Nog is familiar with PICFI (see link below). It started under a Conservative gov't and continued under a Liberal gov't and allowed for the retiring and transferring of commercial licences to FN groups. The push towards greater FN control over the salmon fisheries continues, with or without UNDRIP.

Anyone trying to portray this as a left vs. right political issue isn't seeing it clearly. The old school commercial anglers like Nog don't have any friends in the government, no matter which party is in power. I guess that wasn't clear until the stocks started to run low, though maybe the writing's been on the wall all along but nobody wanted to acknowledge it.

https://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/picfi-ipcip/index-eng.html


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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2020, 09:34:09 PM »

FN nets out on the south arm of Fraser tonight.
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2020, 09:42:20 AM »

FN nets out on the south arm of Fraser tonight.

Three "sanctioned" chinook openings for the Cheam & counting thus far.
On the most endangered run of springs there is in that river.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2020, 10:05:23 AM »

Maybe they are sharing with those bands up North because of their lack of fish...... ;)
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2020, 11:38:42 AM »

FN nets out on the south arm of Fraser tonight.

There have been eulachon drift net openings on the lower river this week. Opening for springs are supposedly for 1st Salmon ceremonies and they are generally allowed 1 fish though some bands have declined the opportunity as they did last year.
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2020, 12:25:14 PM »

...Opening for springs are supposedly for 1st Salmon ceremonies and they are generally allowed 1 fish though some bands have declined the opportunity as they did last year.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2020, 12:39:27 PM »

There have been eulachon drift net openings on the lower river this week. Opening for springs are supposedly for 1st Salmon ceremonies and they are generally allowed 1 fish though some bands have declined the opportunity as they did last year.

Yeah these ceremonial openings are insignificant compared to the usual communal openings that took place around this time of the year. The LFFA is well aware of the low abundance of early Fraser chinook and is doing their part to limit efforts.

That said, there have been quite a bit of net poaching going on in recent weeks unfortunately.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2020, 01:13:01 PM »

There have been eulachon drift net openings on the lower river this week. Opening for springs are supposedly for 1st Salmon ceremonies and they are generally allowed 1 fish though some bands have declined the opportunity as they did last year.

according to ken malloways facebook page its actually 3-6 fish per opening or it might be per conditional license. Yes not a wide scale opening often only 1 fishermen licensed for a small amount.

I don't no if you have or have not read the Marine Conservation Caucus (MCC) feedback but they do talk about this, Even the ENGO's are saying its a big issue

"Estimates of ‘Missing’ Chinook

It is recognized there is a significant discrepancy between the number of 4-2 and 5-2 Chinook estimated
at Albion and the number that arrives on the spawning grounds. To date there has been little effort to
quantify this discrepancy or identify what is contributing to this discrepancy. A research program should
be put into place in 2020 to identify the fate of these ‘missing’ Chinook."
« Last Edit: April 24, 2020, 01:24:21 PM by wildmanyeah »
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2020, 04:58:56 PM »

maybe someone should also note the reported FN net fishing and other side issues have no relation to UNDRIP or Bill C-262.
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2020, 08:47:15 PM »

the UN needs to be completely defunded.
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