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IronNoggin

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Anti UNDRIP Petition
« on: April 19, 2020, 03:55:48 PM »

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-2473

Petition to the House of Commons

Whereas:

The United Nations Declaration of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP), a supranational agreement created and developed by the UN, has the real potential to seriously compromise our national sovereignty, supersede Canadian law, and give rights to a recognized group in Canada outside of federal legislation, rendering the vast majority of Canadians without rights to large swaths of land;

UNDRIP would effectively be interpreted to supersede the current language of Canadian law from "meaningful consultation" to "prior and informed consent", in relation to any development on any hereditary land, disputed or otherwise, essentially giving veto power to hereditary chiefs using traditional law that in fact does not have legal standing within the laws of Canada;

Canada has already an effective system of consulting with our First Nations under section 35 of the Constitution Act;

The Canadian people, through representation, do not require supranational agreements, treaties, or compacts to effectively ensure the rights of any peoples are protected;

Canada is a world leader on human rights and will continue to lead the world in that area; and

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has vowed to re-introduce Bill C-262 on UNDRIP, which was debated during the 42nd Parliament, in the upcoming weeks and months.

We, the undersigned, citizens of Canada, call upon the House of Commons to:

1) Vote to fully reject any bill similar to C-262 that would accept a supranational agreement that can and will be interpreted as superseding Canadian law;

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2) Fully reject any bill similar to C-262 and denounce any and all supranational agreements that negatively affect our Canadian sovereignty.
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2020, 07:40:22 PM »

No thanks 8)

I do enjoy that the Conservative MP from Saskatchewan forgot to capitalize Saskatoon, FWIW.
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IronNoggin

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 09:19:38 AM »

No thanks...

I knew there would be a few on this site who would actually support UN directives over Canadian Law.
Thanks for the verification.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 09:57:21 AM »

I knew there would be a few on this site who would actually support UN directives over Canadian Law.
Thanks for the verification.

Nog

This is a fallacy and misinformation. The UNDRIP declaration is a framework and non binding. Each country or jurisdiction that endorses it can invoke it in it's own way.

UNDRIP:

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..."emphasizes the rights of Indigenous peoples to maintain and strengthen their own institutions, cultures and traditions, and to pursue their development in keeping with their own needs and aspirations" It "prohibits discrimination against indigenous peoples", and it "promotes their full and effective participation in all matters that concern them and their right to remain distinct and to pursue their own visions of economic and social development"

UNDRIP provides a framework to allow indigenous people to maintain their own culture. language and traditions as opposed to being forced to assimilate into a majority culture.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2020, 10:01:10 AM »

This is a fallacy and misinformation. The UNDRIP declaration is a framework ans non binding. Each country or jurisdiction that endorses it can invoke it in it's own way.

NOT the way it is being imposed in your own Province Ralphie Ol' Chap.
Nor the way your inglorious leader wishes to see it unfold on a national basis either.

But... Nice Try anyway...   ::)

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Nog
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2020, 10:39:41 AM »

NOT the way it is being imposed in your own Province Ralphie Ol' Chap.
Nor the way your inglorious leader wishes to see it unfold on a national basis either.

But... Nice Try anyway...   ::)

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Nog
Sorry to burst your bubble.

Unfortunately the problem for the originators of this petition is that UNDRIP doesn't conform to their uninformed opinions.

UNDRIP is consistent with close to 300 years of Canadian law and most of what is outlined in the material I quoted above is already in place in Canada thanks to the BNA ACt, the Constitution Act and a large body of Court rulings.  This is not something new in Canada though it is a work in progress since various bodies of the Crown have historically ignored the law as it stands in this country.

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2020, 10:42:06 AM »

The world according to Ralph... 
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2020, 11:26:10 AM »

The world according to Ralph... 

He's right. You need to wake up and smell the roses nog, the world you took for granted is gone.
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2020, 11:59:35 AM »

NOT the way it is being imposed in your own Province Ralphie Ol' Chap.
Nor the way your inglorious leader wishes to see it unfold on a national basis either.

But... Nice Try anyway...   ::)

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Nog

Angry white much?

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IronNoggin

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2020, 12:28:04 PM »

Poor little misguided sheeple.   ::)
I strongly suggest that some here best be putting their rose colored glasses away, and start paying attention to what they are being SUBJECTED to in Canada (pun definitely intended).

Cheers,
Npg
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2020, 12:28:30 PM »

False news has never prevented Nog from posting.
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IronNoggin

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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2020, 12:36:24 PM »

False news has never prevented Nog from posting.

And ostriches will always like to hide their head in the sand, thereby releasing them from any potential of actually determining what is real in this world...  ;D

Nog
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2020, 12:57:10 PM »

And ostriches will always like to hide their head in the sand, thereby releasing them from any potential of actually determining what is real in this world...  ;D

Nog

Ostriches don't actually bury their heads in the sand. See below for a link to a National Geographic Kids article debunking some popular animal myths:

https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/explore/nature/animal-myths-busted/
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2020, 01:03:18 PM »

Ostriches don't actually bury their heads in the sand.



Perhaps not.



But some sheeple certainly do 

Cheers,
Nog
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Re: Anti UNDRIP Petition
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2020, 01:46:38 PM »

Thanks Matt. I always enjoy our friendly little chit chats. 8)