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wildmanyeah

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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #360 on: August 22, 2018, 07:42:07 PM »

I would just stay off the water and let them have their economic fishery, Their set nets will clear out all the fish from the bouncing lanes of fish anyways.



ategory(s): ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities
Subject: FN0839-ABORIGINAL - Salmon - Economic Opportunities - Area 29 - Lower Fraser Area - Opening August 23, 2018

A commercial economic opportunity fishery is authorized for the Aitchelitz,
Chawathil, Cheam, Katzie, Kwantlen, Kwaw-kwaw-apilt, Peters, Seabird Island,
Shxwha:y, Shxw'ow'hamel, Skowkale, Skwah, Soowahlie, Squiala, Sumas, Tzeacten,
Union Bar, and Yale First Nation for sockeye salmon using set and drift gill
nets in the lower Fraser River.

This fishery is open for set nets from 06:00 hours, Thursday, August 23, 2018
to 12:00 hours, Friday, August 24, 2018 and for drift nets from 06:00 hours to
16:00 hours on Thursday, August 23, 2018 in the following area: portions of
Area 29, the mainstem of the Fraser River from the Port Mann Bridge to Sawmill
Creek.

Only individuals designated by the Aitchelitz, Chawathil, Cheam, Katzie,
Kwantlen, Kwaw-kwaw-apilt, Peters, Seabird Island, Shxwha:y, Shxw'ow'hamel,
Skowkale, Skwah, Soowahlie, Squiala, Sumas, Tzeachten, Union Bar, Yale First
Nation are authorized to participate in this fishery.  All aspects of the
communal licence will be enforced. Fish harvesters are advised to contact their
band for a copy of the conditions of their fishing licence.

Notes:

The target species in this fishery is Fraser River sockeye salmon.  There will
be non-retention of chinook, coho, steelhead and sturgeon. This fishery has
been designed to address stocks of concern. All non-target species will be
released back to the water alive and unharmed.
 
It is mandatory that all salmon retained under the authority of this licence be
transported to the nearest landing station and made available for inspection. 
A monitor shall be present during all landing of catch to record the number and
weight of each species of salmon delivered.

Environment and Climate Change Canada (ECCC) is monitoring seabird by-catch to
determine potential impact on bird populations under current fishing effort and
bird numbers. Fishers are requested to submit all dead birds entangled in nets
to ECCC for species confirmation and DNA analysis to determine the colony of
origin. Please call your local charter patrol to organize pick-up, drop
carcasses off at a local DFO office, or contact ECCC directly by calling the
Wild Bird Mortality reporting Line 1-866-431-2473 (BIRD). Handle birds with
gloves, double bag dead birds. Label bag with date, time, location, fishery
opening and vessel name (Skipper name isn't needed). Alternatively, please send
photographs of birds with a reference object such as a coin, and the date,
time, location, fishery opening and vessel name to laurie.wilson@canada.ca.
Questions: contact Laurie Wilson (laurie.wilson@canada.ca, 604-862-8817).
       
Fishers are advised to notify local DFO managers or patrol vessels to report
abandoned, lost, or entangled gear.

The 24 hour toll-free phone-in line for fisheries notices is 1-866-431-3474.


FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Sheldon Evers, Resource Manager - Fraser Interior Area at (604) 666-8049
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0839
Sent August 22, 2018 at 1616
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #361 on: August 22, 2018, 08:22:12 PM »

The biggest component, the Adams River run, has yet to arrive in big numbers.
Yesterday, my brother said that there are huge numbers of fish jumping in English Bay.
He lives downtown and has been watching every day - said it was the most he's seen by far.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #362 on: August 22, 2018, 08:54:41 PM »

That FN opening doesn't look too bad - only 10 hours for drift nets on Thursday, the rest are just set nets.  All netting done by noon Friday, should be fine for the weekend sporties.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #363 on: August 22, 2018, 09:11:59 PM »

the FN economic opportunities opening never clean out the river to the extent the full commercial openings do. If you have seen both it's hard not to miss the difference in the # of boats on the water.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #364 on: August 22, 2018, 10:39:05 PM »

the FN economic opportunities opening never clean out the river to the extent the full commercial openings do. If you have seen both it's hard not to miss the difference in the # of boats on the water.

Nope they don’t but their nets are up river of mission where all the rec fishermen are. Best just to avoid the area and let the economic fishery happen.

Undoubtedly their will be conflicts posted on social media come Thursday and Friday .

How many guys will bring up ankor when a net comes towards their boat. How many First Nations will avoid adrift right though a rec bar.

What are the Fraser river peace keepers recommending??
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #365 on: August 22, 2018, 10:51:31 PM »

Nope they don’t but their nets are up river of mission where all the rec fishermen are. Best just to avoid the area and let the economic fishery happen.

Undoubtedly their will be conflicts posted on social media come Thursday and Friday .

How many guys will bring up ankor when a net comes towards their boat. How many First Nations will avoid adrift right though a rec bar.

What are the Fraser river peace keepers recommending??
It seemed to work pretty well last Saturday from what I saw, except I heard one FN fisher telling another FN boat that a sport boat cut his net in half on his first set!  However, from all appearances, the two groups were friendly and keeping to their own space while we were out.  The FN boats seemed to actually get the most fish just by drifting down the middle of the river away from where the sport boats could anchor.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #366 on: August 23, 2018, 06:47:48 AM »

Nope they don’t but their nets are up river of mission where all the rec fishermen are. Best just to avoid the area and let the economic fishery happen.

Undoubtedly their will be conflicts posted on social media come Thursday and Friday .

How many guys will bring up ankor when a net comes towards their boat. How many First Nations will avoid adrift right though a rec bar.

What are the Fraser river peace keepers recommending??
Hmmm... well those anchored are supposed to move when water craft like this are not able to maneuver - same with tugs and barges.

As a bank fisherman I've never seen or experienced a direct conflict though I am sure they happen.

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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #367 on: August 23, 2018, 08:39:42 AM »

Openings like this are rare. Just let them have it and stay off the water. Honestly. I know I will. My deep freezer is almost full and I've already canned 6 sockeye and one spring. Plus the best best week is set to come. I'll be resting my arms today and doing a little checkup on the boat, trailer and gear.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #368 on: August 23, 2018, 01:28:37 PM »

Not looking to start a debate regarding the legality of this notice issued by the Seabird First Nations Band, Since its not from DFO but hopefully fishermen are smart enough to avoid the area.


sports Fishing Closure Notice – August 23, 2018

Fishing is CLOSED on the Banks of the Fraser River from South of Seabird to North of Seabird; Maria Slough to Johnson Slough due to the forest fighting efforts. All cars parked on the side of Hwy 7 and the adjacent roads will be towed and may face hefty fines from DFO.

- It is not safe to have vehicles parked in this area, they are impeding forest fire efforts to attend the scene.

- It is not safe to be on the river or its banks at this time due to water extractions for the fire efforts.

First Nations Fishers will have to fish to the East of the Johnson or to the West of Maria in order to allow the Fire Emergency staff to continue to fight the fires.

This closure will remain in effect until further notice.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #369 on: August 23, 2018, 03:41:52 PM »

@wildmanyeah - was this notice posted in the area?  Is it posted online somewhere?  It doesn't make much sense for DFO to be enforcing parking for Fire Fighters - that is clearly not DFO's jurisdiction.  I would think that any fishing closure would have to be issued by DFO or the Province - NOT the band.  Of course, it's not a good idea to park in an area where they are actively fire fighting...
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #370 on: August 23, 2018, 03:56:46 PM »

Posted on Seabirds facebook page
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #371 on: August 23, 2018, 03:57:39 PM »

It's posted on the Seabird Island Band's Facebook and Twitter accounts.

I agree, some things don't make sense. And interesting that it is directed at both sport and FN fishers
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #372 on: August 23, 2018, 07:03:34 PM »

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=212617&ID=all

There is some concern about the late summer stick ? Hmm.....
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #373 on: August 23, 2018, 08:06:47 PM »

https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=212617&ID=all

There is some concern about the late summer stick ? Hmm.....

Makes sense if you watch the test net fisheries. I'm sure at the first sign of building strength (if at all), they will open up the armada again.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #374 on: August 23, 2018, 08:35:17 PM »

Yeah.

Comparing the numbers from 2014 to this run, they are way down. By Aug 17th the runs were tripple digits straight thru to second week of September. Now ? Not at all.
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