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[AnnieP]

Annie,  If you had the time to read three or four years of his posts you would know it's his MO.  Not only does he feel it is ok he is an active participant.  

Time to go over PCBs again isn't it af?

Don't think I could handle it ............would be up there with the 16 years of reading Morton posts wouldn't it ?

[Novabonker]

Annie,  If you had the time to read three or four years of his posts you would know it's his MO.  Not only does he feel it is ok he is an active participant.  

Time to go over PCBs again isn't it af?

Commentary like that does little to help your cause.    Even if it is a lost one here.

[AnnieP]

Annie,  If you had the time to read three or four years of his posts you would know it's his MO.  Not only does he feel it is ok he is an active participant.  

Time to go over PCBs again isn't it af?

rye + water = hangover
scotch + water = hangover
bourbon + water = hangover
Therefore water causes hangovers   Yeah I know the type

[AnnieP]

Commentary like that does little to help your cause.    Even if it is a lost one here.

Aquaculture is growing worldwide. Hardly a lost cause.

[Novabonker]

Aquaculture is growing worldwide. Hardly a lost cause.

I was referring to the condescending tone, but if the shoe fits . I can't believe I'm sticking up for AF - we bare knuckled it over the HST. He must be getting wiser with age.

[AnnieP]

I was referring to the condescending tone, but if the shoe fits . I can't believe I'm sticking up for AF - we bare knuckled it over the HST. He must be getting wiser with age.

http://salmoncoast.org/new__broughton_archipelago_salmon_health_assessment Another plea from Morton for yet her latest scam
I am always surprised that dedicated sports fishermen and guides don't realise that by trying to destroy salmon farming she is doing a damn good job of harming tourism with her disease crusade. It is posted in every venue she can muster. Just a matter of time till the tourism industry in BC pays the price thanks to Morton and NOT salmon farming.

[alwaysfishn]

http://salmoncoast.org/new__broughton_archipelago_salmon_health_assessment Another plea from Morton for yet her latest scam
I am always surprised that dedicated sports fishermen and guides don't realise that by trying to destroy salmon farming she is doing a damn good job of harming tourism with her disease crusade. It is posted in every venue she can muster. Just a matter of time till the tourism industry in BC pays the price thanks to Morton and NOT salmon farming.

Seems to me that Morton is doing what the government and CFIA should be doing, but isn't.......  testing to determine the diseases these feedlots are spreading before it's too late.

[AnnieP]

Seems to me that Morton is doing what the government and CFIA should be doing, but isn't.......  testing to determine the diseases these feedlots are spreading before it's too late.

Too bad she isn't qualified to do the testing. Since when do you purchase samples in a grocery store. The government agencies have done the testing. Morton just has this idea only she is capable of doing it properly. Cannot believe people bite into rotting spawned out salmon and organless and gill less grocery store salmon with no chain of handling or origin are optimum for testing. What exactly is she testing in a grocery store fish anyway when it has no internal organs or gills ? And why doesn't Dr Fred Kibenge acknowledge and confirm her claims since he is the one she credits with her testing. Back to your circular argument again AF. And your back to blaming salmon farms for diseases originating in wild fish.

[Easywater]

Another plea from Morton for yet her latest scam

You'll be lucky if you don't get sued for some of your comments here.

[alwaysfishn]

Too bad she isn't qualified to do the testing. Since when do you purchase samples in a grocery store. The government agencies have done the testing. Morton just has this idea only she is capable of doing it properly. Cannot believe people bite into rotting spawned out salmon and organless and gill less grocery store salmon with no chain of handling or origin are optimum for testing. What exactly is she testing in a grocery store fish anyway when it has no internal organs or gills ? And why doesn't Dr Fred Kibenge acknowledge and confirm her claims since he is the one she credits with her testing. Back to your circular argument again AF. And your back to blaming salmon farms for diseases originating in wild fish.

If only what you just posted was true....... The CFIA has finally started started testing farmed and wild salmon since this spring. http://www.inspection.gc.ca/animals/aquatic-animals/diseases/reportable/isa/backgrounder/eng/1330100651673/1330100817464 And they likely would not even be doing that, if not for the Cohen commission's work in revealing how DFO and CFIA have been negligent in doing the proper science.

Doesn't it seem a little strange that someone didn't start testing farmed and wild salmon as soon as the feedlots entered the water? Or were they relying on the voluntary reporting that 62% of the feedlots were providing? Or is it that DFO and CFIA have been directed by the government to do everything (or nothing?) to ensure that the public doesn't find out about the diseases the feedlots are potentially spreading?

We all know that the future of the BC feedlots is in the hands of the public.....   When the public becomes aware of the risk the feedlots bring to our coastal environment, they will stop buying the product. Morton also is aware that the public wants to know whether the feedlots are selling diseased product, so she is making her best efforts to test the stuff, because nobody else is......

Ultimately her goal is to save the wild salmon.

[AnnieP]

You'll be lucky if you don't get sued for some of your comments here.

Sued for what ? She has used grocery store samples. I'm questioning how they are optimum to be tested for disease when there is no proof from where they came and no proof they haven't been cross contaminated by other species imported from outside the country.. I also question why sports fishers are not  growing concerned for the damage that is being done now by her disease claims to all sports, commercial and farmed salmon in BC. How is that libel ? They are valid questions. There are no postings on OIE lab site confirming her claims although other fish diseases including the ISA outbreaks in the maritimes are listed. Further to that several labs including the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and DFO amongst them have not been able to duplicate her claimed results. If ISA for example were in fact present in BC waters ALL Atlantic salmon would probably now be dead. They aren't. Morton counters that by simply calling the government scientists liars.

[AnnieP]

If only what you just posted was true....... The CFIA has finally started started testing farmed and wild salmon since this spring. http://www.inspection.gc.ca/animals/aquatic-animals/diseases/reportable/isa/backgrounder/eng/1330100651673/1330100817464 And they likely would not even be doing that, if not for the Cohen commission's work in revealing how DFO and CFIA have been negligent in doing the proper science.

Doesn't it seem a little strange that someone didn't start testing farmed and wild salmon as soon as the feedlots entered the water? Or were they relying on the voluntary reporting that 62% of the feedlots were providing? Or is it that DFO and CFIA have been directed by the government to do everything (or nothing?) to ensure that the public doesn't find out about the diseases the feedlots are potentially spreading?

We all know that the future of the BC feedlots is in the hands of the public.....   When the public becomes aware of the risk the feedlots bring to our coastal environment, they will stop buying the product. Morton also is aware that the public wants to know whether the feedlots are selling diseased product, so she is making her best efforts to test the stuff, because nobody else is......

Ultimately her goal is to save the wild salmon.

Valid questions AF but let's remember even Morton only raised the question of ISA in BC after it arrived in the Maritimes. When farming was orginally started in BC there had been  no disease outbreaks or sea lice infestations in Norway to raise concern in other countries. ISA is a recently discovered disease.  I don't think by announcing to the world all BC salmon has assorted naturally occurring diseases in most cases is proof salmon farms are to blame for those same diseases but she is sure going to do some serious harm to local sports fishing enterprises in the interim and BC salmon's reputation. And let's remember the samples provided through her to CFIA were too degraded to test properly. If that was the case were they tested properly to begin with ?

[aquapaloosa]

If she was trying to primarily save wild salmon she would be going after sport fishing/commercial fishing and alsaka salmon ranching and fish hatcheries and other issues.  She has never spoke once of anything else but salmon farms.  She is only an anti salmon farming activist.  Nothing more.

[AnnieP]

If only what you just posted was true....... The CFIA has finally started started testing farmed and wild salmon since this spring. http://www.inspection.gc.ca/animals/aquatic-animals/diseases/reportable/isa/backgrounder/eng/1330100651673/1330100817464 And they likely would not even be doing that, if not for the Cohen commission's work in revealing how DFO and CFIA have been negligent in doing the proper science.

Doesn't it seem a little strange that someone didn't start testing farmed and wild salmon as soon as the feedlots entered the water? Or were they relying on the voluntary reporting that 62% of the feedlots were providing? Or is it that DFO and CFIA have been directed by the government to do everything (or nothing?) to ensure that the public doesn't find out about the diseases the feedlots are potentially spreading?

We all know that the future of the BC feedlots is in the hands of the public.....   When the public becomes aware of the risk the feedlots bring to our coastal environment, they will stop buying the product. Morton also is aware that the public wants to know whether the feedlots are selling diseased product, so she is making her best efforts to test the stuff, because nobody else is......

Ultimately her goal is to save the wild salmon.

http://fis.com/fis/worldnews/worldnews.asp?monthyear=&day=19&id=46906&l=e&special=0&ndb=0
This is the article released within 24 hours of Morton and Routledge making their intial ISA claim by news conference. David Groman is the head of the department at Atlantic Veterinary College concerned with this testing. Note in his statement he disputes the claims made in Morton/Routledge newscast and in fact says there was NO confirmation of the virus. Fact.

[AnnieP]

If she was trying to primarily save wild salmon she would be going after sport fishing/commercial fishing and alsaka salmon ranching and fish hatcheries and other issues.  She has never spoke once of anything else but salmon farms.  She is only an anti salmon farming activist.  Nothing more.

And that would be ONLY in Canada as she never mentions the farms in her homeland USA in Maine or Washington state nor has she mentioned the possibility kudoa may be present in Alaska halibut either. Alaska farms salmon whether they admit it or not. Their hatchery salmon spend one year in the same pens our farmed fish do and are probably fed the exact same feed. Calling it ranching doesn't change that fact.