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Liberals say they're not trying to ban hunting rifles. Here's why that's a lie

Last week, the Liberals quietly introduced an amendment to a piece of gun control legislation that would ban thousands of Canadian hunting arms, constituting the largest single gun ban in Canadian history. After the amendment became public, Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino announced he had “no intention whatsoever” of banning hunting rifles or long guns.

The problem is, Mendicino’s claims aren’t true at all. Even a cursory look at the list quickly reveals that it’s chock full of purpose-built hunting arms, many of which have likely never been near a battlefield or crime scene in the last 100 years. While prior Trudeau government gun bans at least attempted to only select firearms that had “assault-style” aesthetics, this new list proposes to criminalize hundreds of rifles and shotguns that are low-powered, slow to fire and only ever designed to shoot birds, deer or skeet.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberals-ban-hunting-rifles-lie
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Should be a law with penalties for knowingly lying to parliament!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av-8LX-RiB4
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Why Does The Government Want To Ban The Ruger No 1? And Why Are They Lying About It?
A Lawyers Take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAha0XmfjY
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The exponentially expanding budget associated with the liberals "get tough on hunters" amendment:

Expanded Liberal gun ban could cost taxpayers 'another billion dollars,' says criminologist

The Liberal government’s cost for its mandatory gun buyback plan is bound to rise substantially in light of a proposal to expand the list of prohibited weapons to what could be millions more currently legal hunting and sport shooting rifles.

Public Safety Canada was unable to provide updated estimates for the significantly expanded expropriation, but criminologist Gary Mauser estimates the cost could add another $1 billion to the $756 million estimated cost the Parliamentary Budget Officer released last year.

“That is another billion dollars — because so many popular long guns will be caught by it,” said Mauser, a Simon Fraser University professor.

https://nationalpost.com/news/expanded-liberal-gun-ban-could-cost-taxpayers-another-billion-dollars-says-criminologist

Gary Mauser is underestimating this.

Those in favor of such frivolous waste when the current government is madly taking us down the unending and incredible debt trail, raise your hands... Case in point the MILLIONS already spent on this mind numbing foolishness with even a single firearm turned in (bureaucratic wages, which of course are paid bi-weekly to sit and do nada, and infrastructure design proven time and time again to be faulty...)

Sheesh!
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For the sake of national unity, Liberals should drop hunting rifle ban 

The gun control legislation threatens to deepen the divide between rural and urban Canada

OTTAWA — Canada’s firearm classification system would baffle students of Byzantium, but even the uninitiated can figure out the fundamental unfairness in the government’s proposed amendments to its gun control law.

The Conservatives claim the Liberals are intent on going after hunting rifles in a sneaky amendment that was not in the original Bill C21 that was debated in the House of Commons.

The public safety minister, Marco Mendicino, has said the government has “no intention whatsoever” of banning hunting rifles.

After watching testimony before the public safety committee on Thursday, it is fair to say neither position reflects precisely what is going on.

What is much clearer is that this is a ridiculous way to make public policy. For the sake of national unity, the government should drop an amendment for which there appears to be no need. If there had been, the provisions would have been included in the original bill.

But handguns are the public safety problem, not hunting rifles, and their pursuit makes it look like the Liberals are trying to ingratiate themselves with urbanites who don’t like any type of guns, at the expense of rural Canadians, for whom firearms are integral to their lifestyle. And that is quite apart from the soaring cost of a buy-back that will likely run into billions of dollars.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/john-ivison-for-sake-of-national-unity-liberals-should-drop-hunting-rifle-ban
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'I am not a criminal': Carey Price takes aim at federal firearms bill

Montreal Canadiens goaltender Carey Price took to Instagram on Saturday to voice his opposition to Bill C-21, the federal government’s new firearms bill.

He posted a photo of himself wearing camouflage and holding a firearm while standing in a field alongside a caption that read: “I love my family, I love my country and I care for my neighbour. I am not a criminal or a threat to society. What (Justin Trudeau) is trying to do is unjust. I support the (Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights) to keep my hunting tools.

Price’s statement was enthusiastically greeted by Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre.

“Carey is absolutely right,” he wrote on Twitter. “Hunting is a great Canadian tradition. Trudeau’s attempts to ban hunting rifles are an attack on rural and Indigenous people. We must stop him.”

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/carey-price-bill-c21-firearms/
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Repealing Liberal Bill C-21 🚫 with Andrew Lawton & Pierre Poilievre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJFKQAzb2Ac
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You know things are bad when your own bought & paid for propaganda machine turns on you...

How Bill C-21 turned from banning handguns to hunting guns

The government's latest amendment would ban many hunting rifles, shotguns, even antique cannons

Confusion was on the agenda at a parliamentary committee last week after the Liberal government brought in last-minute amendments to its contentious gun control legislation.

The proposed changes to Bill C-21 were tacked on by Liberal MP Paul Chiang after it had passed second reading — drawing complaints from opposition MPs who accused the government of sneaking in changes that would expand the scope of prohibited weapons to include hunting rifles.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c21-sporting-guns-1.6673730
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NDP Safety Critic says 'last minute' Bill C-21 Amendment is an 'abuse of process' by Liberals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfK_wyMzj0
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Public sentiment is now shifting against latest Trudeau gun laws

Trudeau’s Bill C-21 is creating a firestorm among hunters, sportsmen and associations from across the country. It began as a ban on “military-grade” assault-style firearms – black guns. Then the feds turned their sights to legally-obtained handguns. And now the revisions made will impact thousands of rifles and shotguns that are “low-powered, slow to fire and only ever designed to shoot birds, deer or skeet.”

While some Canadians could see merit in the banning of “military-style assault rifles,” in light of our country’s deadliest mass shooting – the April 2020 rampage in Truro, Nova Scotia that claimed the lives of 22 innocents and injured three others until the RCMP shot the gunman – the scales of public sentiment on the current ban have seemingly tipped against Trudeau and his Ministers.

Unlike our southern neighbours, gun culture in Canada is more subdued and has a strong history of reasonable legislation. But get in the way of a northerner on his or her annual moose hunt or Sunday outing to fill the freezer with deer? Look out. That is a sure-fire way to ruffle some Canuck feathers.

Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba have made it clear they do not support the federal push, with potentially more provinces to join. And while Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino wags his finger at them and calls their pushback “reckless” and “political stunting,” it’s pretty tough for even the greatest gun opponents to argue their reasons for opposition.

These opposing provinces maintain that they won’t take part in the buyback program because they don’t have the RCMP resources to waste on harassing duck hunters, that the ban is virtue signalling and that law-abiding gun owners are being unfairly made to look like criminals. All of which are fair and truthful reasons to oppose the gun grab.

https://tnc.news/2022/12/06/op-ed-public-sentiment-shifting-gun-laws/
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Liberals focus on useless gun ban rather than addressing women's safety

This week, Montreal Canadiens goaltender Carey Price apologized after he posted a pro-hunting gun message on Instagram days before the Polytechnique anniversary. Mass outrage ensued, with many condemning Price for being insensitive.

Yet it seems more offensive that, instead of considering concrete solutions to stop gender-based violence, so many Canadians’ attention is swept up debating hunting rifles that are rarely used in femicides. Conflating hunting and sport shooting with gender-based violence does little to actually prevent future violence, but it does serve a political purpose.

This is also what makes the Liberals’ transparently partisan and inexplicably broad new gun legislation more problematic than anything an NHL player could post. It diverts attention, time, effort and political capital away from actual solutions, in favour of hammering away on a pet wedge issue.

It allows the public to think something’s being done, when in fact nothing of substance is.

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/sabrina-maddeaux-liberals-focus-on-useless-gun-ban-rather-than-addressing-womens-safety/wcm/e366b0e0-dacc-401f-8d15-832c611348c2
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