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[Ry the fly guy]

So I have heard that a pegged trout bead isn't technically considered fly fishing according to the regs, since it is pegged on the line it considered an attractor and not an actual fly/lure. Is this 100% true? I ask because I prefer to fish with beads when possible due to the low chance of fish swallowing the hook. Many legal egg flies are just a bead on the hook, so in my opinion it is ethically the same. Would a CO give a ticket for trout beading in fly only water? This seems like one of the few cases where fly only might not be the best for the fish. If there is an ethical dilemma I am unaware of I would love someone to enlighten me, only thing I could think of is that opening the door for beads may result in a slippery slope where people would demand to use weights/indicators or any number of other things attached to the line. If anyone has any answers I would be grateful, I sent fisheries a e-mail but no response in over a week.

[Fish Assassin]

A bead is not a fly by any definition. You will be ticketed if caught fishing in a fly restricted water.

[Hike_and_fish]

A bead is not a fly by any definition. You will be ticketed if caught fishing in a fly restricted water.

Without me going thru the regs of all regions. Can someone provide 3 streams that fish well for beads that are fly only ?

[cdjk123]

Use egg flies or roe flies. Everyday might still sell them?

Here's how they define artificial fly:

artificial fly … a single-pointed hook that is
dressed only with fur, feathers, hair, textiles,
tinsel and/or wire, and to which no external
weight or external attracting device is
attached. Two or more hooks tied in tandem
is not permitted. Where gear is restricted
to artificial flies, floats and sinkers may
be attached to the line. Where areas are
restricted to “fly fish only” floats and sinkers
may not be attached to the line or fly.

Here's how fly fishing is defined:

fly fishing … angling with a line to which only
an artificial fly is attached (floats, sinkers,
or attracting devices may not be attached
to the line when fishing is restricted to "fly
fishing only”).

[ByteMe]

I feel the same way Ry does about deep hooking fish by using pegged beads, so when fishing Fly Only waters this has been my solution, your mileage may vary by the CO's you meet,, but I never had a prob with the ones that checked me

    1) Tie your terminal hook to a 18" piece of tippet material
    2) Slide a #12 hook through the tippet and clamp it on your vice 2" above your terminal hook
    3) Secure with thread and tie your egg pattern on the #12 hook, tie off and snip off at the hook bend
    4) Voila.....a pegged egg fly

When you think about this, it is no different than an intruder fly with a trailing hook that we all use in Fly Only waters

[Ry the fly guy]

Without me going thru the regs of all regions. Can someone provide 3 streams that fish well for beads that are fly only ?

I don't know about 3 but I fish the Cowichan a lot, upper is fly only.

When you think about this, it is no different than an intruder fly with a trailing hook that we all use in Fly Only waters

Also ByteMe: Thanks, that is a great idea that I will likely try out. Very true about the intruders, I was thinking tube flies are also very similar but are permitted. Great tip thanks man!

[ByteMe]

Ry, I have been using this setup on The Little Q when it's Fly Fishing Only time of year without any issues

[psd1179]

The way pegging a bead is as same as using tube fly with stinger hook.

There are many flies with no feather or fur such as chironomid or wire nymph.

If there is any concern, tie a little bit of thread on the hook, the hook is literally a fly .

[adriaticum]

Can I use artificial flies under a float? 

[ByteMe]

Can I use artificial flies under a float? 

No......not in a Fly Fishing Only area...........not even and indicator

[Ry the fly guy]

The way pegging a bead is as same as using tube fly with stinger hook.

There are many flies with no feather or fur such as chironomid or wire nymph.

If there is any concern, tie a little bit of thread on the hook, the hook is literally a fly .

True, I feel like after explaining this to a CO at worst they would ask you not to do it anymore before they ticket you, It genuinely is the safer way to fish, as well as technically the same as many other types of flies.

Ry, I have been using this setup on The Little Q when it's Fly Fishing Only time of year without any issues

Thats good to hear, how is the Little Q doing? blown out at the moment I assume?

[ByteMe]

Blown out, like every system on the island...........BTW, you can use tubes the same way I described, just slide one of those rubber bead pegs or round toothpick in the tube, fully adjustable

[Ry the fly guy]

Great, I think the tubes would be easiest and will give that a go soon! thanks again.

[RalphH]

from what I have heard the artificial fly only and fly fishing only restrictions are enforced in a manner that is 'in the spirit of the regs and definitions' not by the letter of the law.  What that means for pegged beads I can't tell you.

[ByteMe]

from what I have heard the artificial fly only and fly fishing only restrictions are enforced in a manner that is 'in the spirit of the regs and definitions' not by the letter of the law.  What that means for pegged beads I can't tell you.

I think that is a really valid and good point , also mostly enforced by the purist and elitist fly fishermen as opposed to the CO's