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[troutbreath]

http://www.theprovince.com/Port+Moody+pushes+shark/5671350/story.html



Oysters are probably a good alternative. That and Viagra or one of those other type of meat tenderizers. if your looking for that reaction.

But really, people should lay off shark fin. Sounds like it's more the cartilage texture of sharky's fin is the appeal. And the taste of the soup. For me soups soup. Not some kind of carnal taste test.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0TLDvPoc4


I just want to have a normal soup

[holmes]

what about this.... ....holmes*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpRqMpRi_P8&feature=player_detailpage

[Ed]

Eating Shark Fin soup is part of the Chinese culture and I dont think its right to ban a specific ingredient. The problem is not with eating the sharkfin but with the method fishermen use to harvest this ingredient. But I agree that it would not hurt if people just stop eating it but it should be their own choice.

If people think we need to stop eating sharkfin then might as well  ban caviar since they are coming from sturgeon and last time I checked, they were endangered. Might as well be nice to the environment and just ban sturgeon fishing altogether!

Also to compare some practice of harvesting, I heard it gets pretty cruel slaughtering cows, so i'm sure some people in India think we should ban eating beef.


next time you eat a steak,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhlhSQ5z4V4

[purple monster]

you should perhaps check out or Google the FIN FREE  WEB SITE, FACEBOOK ETC. 

So far, it looks like we manage to kill off 98% of the shark population.  Fin free movement are working to save the remaining 2%. 

[Ed]

you should perhaps check out or Google the FIN FREE  WEB SITE, FACEBOOK ETC.  

So far, it looks like we manage to kill off 98% of the shark population.  Fin free movement are working to save the remaining 2%.  

Agreed, but banning it in Canada or Europe or the US does not solve the problem. If China doesn't ban it, the population there can eat the rest of the 2%

Maybe its the time to domesticate the Shark species and grow them ourselves? Add a genetic twist like the KFC chickens and make them grow 10 fins? Time to bring up that idea on the Dragon's Den lol On a side note we did a great job at the salmon farms (sarcasm).

[cutthroat22]

So far, it looks like we manage to kill off 98% of the shark population.  Fin free movement are working to save the remaining 2%. 

This stat seems way off...

Maybe 98% of the shark is thrown away?

Maybe 98 percent of a certain species of shark was killed off?

[StillAqua]

Eating Shark Fin soup is part of the Chinese culture and I dont think its right to ban a specific ingredient. The problem is not with eating the sharkfin but with the method fishermen use to harvest this ingredient. But I agree that it would not hurt if people just stop eating it but it should be their own choice.

If we don't ban sharkfin imports and fishing of ecologically unsustainable fisheries, we can't criticize other nations that practice it. We already ban lots of products from endangered species so what's the difference?

[Ed]

If we don't ban sharkfin imports and fishing of ecologically unsustainable fisheries, we can't criticize other nations that practice it. We already ban lots of products from endangered species so what's the difference?

Do you really think banning shark fin imports will help much in reducing the consumption of shark fin? Is your whole point of banning it so it provides you "rights" to criticize other nations that do eat it ? I think living in Canada people should be able to choose for themselves whether or not they want to eat the food. There is a lot of other activities that cause a bigger environmental impact, why not ban that too?

[Rodney]

Good to see a push for this. The sooner it happens the better it is for the global shark populations.

This Chinese can live without shark fin soup.

[troutbreath]

I think most people who eat the stuff can substitute some other cartilage or whatever. Or GM a shark so that it has this incredibly big fin and tastes like chicken. Even GM some Viagra into the shark so it actually is a stimulant. Maybe include a blow up shark in case things get out of hand.

[StillAqua]

Do you really think banning shark fin imports will help much in reducing the consumption of shark fin? Is your whole point of banning it so it provides you "rights" to criticize other nations that do eat it ? I think living in Canada people should be able to choose for themselves whether or not they want to eat the food. There is a lot of other activities that cause a bigger environmental impact, why not ban that too?

It's a necessary step towards International banning of shark fin fisheries so the product is illegal. Worked for drift net fishing in the north Pacific.
Do you really think we Canadians should be able to buy and eat anything without regard to its source or impact on the species? I sure hope not......

[silver ghost]

If you think about it, people are more worried about the price and whether a type of food is healthy before they consider environmental implications.

If people think we need to stop eating sharkfin then might as well  ban caviar since they are coming from sturgeon and last time I checked, they were endangered. Might as well be nice to the environment and just ban sturgeon fishing altogether!

Actually, there are sustainable sources of caviar. There is a sturgeon caviar farm on vancouver island that uses a closed system, to name an example. Also, sturgeon is a complete catch and release fishery in BC so banning sturgeon fishing wouldnt really make a difference on the caviar market. People who are poaching sturgeon for caviar will do it regardless of the rules

[Ed]

If you think about it, people are more worried about the price and whether a type of food is healthy before they consider environmental implications.

Actually, there are sustainable sources of caviar. There is a sturgeon caviar farm on vancouver island that uses a closed system, to name an example. Also, sturgeon is a complete catch and release fishery in BC so banning sturgeon fishing wouldnt really make a difference on the caviar market. People who are poaching sturgeon for caviar will do it regardless of the rules

That is true, but the best way to revive a species is probably to leave it alone and not fish it even if it is catch and release. Its probably not the most ethical thing to put these ancient beasts through the amount of stress of being caught, taken a picture of, and then release. Last time I checked that doesn't make them live longer, and what do we benefit from it ? A nice long fight vs a fish? A nice picture so you can post it online? I'm not sure what the concern is here? The species itself (sharks) or do people have a problem with the practice fishermen use to kill sharks?

In reality, I doubt that Vancouver will ban Shark Fin, since it would probably piss off most restaurant owners in the Vancouver/Richmond area. The economic costs of banning shark fin in Vancouver will probably be higher than the environmental "gains". If you really care about the environment, there should be more protests regarding the oil sands in Alberta, lumber industries in BC, and not to protest something that we will make very minimal impact. No offence but we have 30 million people in Canada in total, out of 30 million how many consume shark fin ? In Shanghai there is aprox, 18 million people, in Beijing another 12-15 million and those are just 2 cities.


As long as poverty is around, its hard to educate people to not harvest the sharks for their fins, because at the end of the day, its those fins that are putting food on the table. And banning it in BC, will not cut down the demand by much.

[matrix111]

If people think we need to stop eating sharkfin then might as well  ban caviar since they are coming from sturgeon and last time I checked, they were endangered. Might as well be nice to the environment and just ban sturgeon fishing altogether!

next time you eat a steak,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhlhSQ5z4V4

  You haven't checked hard enough. Caviars are from farmed sturgeon, 10 years before they harvest it.

[Ed]

It's a necessary step towards International banning of shark fin fisheries so the product is illegal. Worked for drift net fishing in the north Pacific.
Do you really think we Canadians should be able to buy and eat anything without regard to its source or impact on the species? I sure hope not......

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Yes it would be nice of Shark Fin banned internationally, but I doubt we have the political strength etc to put this kind of pressure on countries like China to not buy it. I hear about us complaining about China's human right issues and they seem to care less, so what makes you think they will care about sharks? The same arguments will be brought up like every other international conference. The developed nations have done so much polluting and damage to the environment to get where they are (USA, Canada, Europe), why should the developing countries slow down their development?

I totally disagree with the consumption of whales/dolphins but even with the pressure from different environmental groups, Japan seems to be continuing their "cultural" activities.