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Simon2

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How do you tie your wool?
« on: October 22, 2004, 02:03:17 PM »

What's the best way to attach the wool to the hook?  Tie it?  glue? Some other way?  Also, how big should the wool be?  I guess about the size of the end of the forefinger?  Thank you.

Are there any good sites showing how to tie the wool?
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2004, 02:22:47 PM »

Egg loop
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2004, 03:54:25 PM »

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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2004, 11:37:45 AM »

Eqq loop with wool the size of your fingernail. (Not thumb nail....too big.)
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2004, 11:55:47 AM »

Most of the time I use a #4 hook and tie my wool on with an egg loop.  The amount of wool will vary according to water condition.  In really clear water/bright sunny day I normally start with the wool the size of the nail on my little finger and scale down to sometimes half that size.  For water that is murkier, I usually go slightly bigger than that.  My general rule is that I usually use a piece of wool that has been trimmed so it does not extend below the curve of the hook and then I start trimming down from there.  I also will usually trim the wool after a few casts so that it doesn't have a whole lot of stray strands
sticking out from it too and keeps it neat and clean.  One other thing, I tend to not use the whole piece of wool that I cut off.  I usally split it in two for a more delicate presentation.  Keep in mind that more or less wool on your hook will slightly change the way your hook drifts because of the extra/less drag caused by the amount of wool on your hook.  Having said all that, I remember one time I was fishing a deep ultra clear pool of water in bright sunlight around mid day and the coho were hammering obscene gobs of large red wool as it drifted past but not the small delicate presentations.  Go figure.
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2004, 09:50:28 AM »

Nice post, Merc; I learned a lot. 
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2004, 01:01:37 PM »

What is this knot:

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1. feed leader through octopus eye from top
2. doube back leader along shank up to eye, but not through.
3. make turns (approx 6) around shank, and two strands of leader until small loop (formed by doubling back in #2)
4. feed end through loop left in 3.
5. tighten by pulling standing leader, and end, while keeping fingers on turns.

This creates a loop, through which I can place my bait quite easily.  Anyone know the name of this knot?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2004, 01:03:33 PM by DragonSpeed »
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2004, 01:09:02 PM »

Think it's called the Snell Knot
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2004, 03:19:18 PM »

From what I can see (web illustrations), that's not the knot :(

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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2004, 03:35:03 PM »

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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2004, 06:07:04 PM »

Nope - right after doubling back with the leader, you start wrapping down to the curve, and BOTH parts - the descending, AND the return get caught by your wrap.  In that one, only the descending get's caught by the wrap.

Make sense?

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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2004, 10:35:35 PM »

I'm not sure but is that not like a steelheaders bait loop, wool in lower loop and eggs in top loop?
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2004, 11:53:09 PM »

The best way I can describe it is as a "modified" hangman's knot.  I've modded a picture of the hangman's knot to show how I tie this loop.



then slide up the knot after you've got your wool/roe sack in.

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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2004, 12:05:48 AM »

I'm getting cross eyed looking at your illustration.  ;D Suggest you learn the egg loop
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Re: How do you tie your wool?
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2004, 01:14:51 AM »

DS, that's the knot I use for leaders, I had problems with it breaking when using some of the heavier lines (50 lb test for halibut). But I have landed my largest salmon to date (42 lbs) on a cut-plug rig tied this way, I used it because I did not know the other way of tying it, but will use it now that I know how to tie it properly. Here's another link that may make tying it a lttle easier:
http://www.berrysbait.com/001.htm (go into the site, then go into "instruction", then "knots", then "steelheader egg loop")

It is indeed called a snell knot, this is due to the fact that some course fishermen use hooks withought eyes, and have to secure their line to a "spade end" hook, or a snell hook. This is a method I have seen used for attaching these hooks. I have been using it rather successfully in the past as a bait-loop, and for rigging tandem hooks in a rig (anchovies, herring, etc.).
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