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[wildmanyeah]

Oh my goodness, are we going to exceed the low abundance exploitation rate for sockeye salmon in that case? lol...

like cultus lake sockeye the bigger the pink run the odds of encountering a sockeye lower at least that's what they used to say about cultus lake sockeye.

However as Fic says the marine catches have took a noise dive so I don't see them managing it for the P75 forecast will probably be p50.  If marine catches don't pick up we may even see a downgrade.

Still if there was ever a bone to toss to us the lower fraser pink fishery would be it. Man i hope

[wildmanyeah]

It's a long shot but itll definitely be good news. I know pretty much everyone who fishes from a boat at the mouth of the Summas loves to chase them in from low tide. With access in the Fraser portion, itll definitely be a game changer.

The rumor says it would be a below mission bridge opening

[wildmanyeah]

Confirmed with DFO there is no openings planned. Rumours are simply untrue

Sorry 😐

Also FYI they may downgrade the pink run tomorrow

[mikeyman]

Downgrade the pink run? There are lots out at the mouth. Cant keep them off while looking for springs right now.

[RalphH]

most of the South Coast runs have done better than 2017 and it appears that for some, like the Squamish, like Indian Arm, the later components of those runs have been stronger than the earlier.

So if they downgrade it it still may come back at better than the p50 forecast.

It also looks like no one expects it to be less and a return of 5 million fish is 60% better than what came back in 2017.

[Hike_and_fish]

Downgrade the pink run? There are lots out at the mouth. Cant keep them off while looking for springs right now.

Officially  downgraded.

[fic]

Interesting they felt there are enough pinks in the Vedder and Harrison to support a rec fishery.  Is it because the Vedder and Harrison are hatchery enhanced?  Wondering how the chum fishery will turn out this year.  Last year they shut down the Stave for retention but allowed them to stay open the Vedder.

[wildmanyeah]

Interesting they felt there are enough pinks in the Vedder and Harrison to support a rec fishery.  Is it because the Vedder and Harrison are hatchery enhanced? 

it has nothing to do with the run size and everything to do with the fact that there are some first nation bands on the fraser that have not even harvested 1 salmon this year.

[CohoJake]

Interesting they felt there are enough pinks in the Vedder and Harrison to support a rec fishery.  Is it because the Vedder and Harrison are hatchery enhanced?  Wondering how the chum fishery will turn out this year.  Last year they shut down the Stave for retention but allowed them to stay open the Vedder.

This certainly looks 100% like a calculated political move to keep the rec sector (including guides) happy while not having to give any exploitation of Fraser sockeye stocks to rec or commercial sectors.  I can't imagine DFO has any idea how many pinks are returning to the Vedder this year - it is far too early to estimate the run and as far as I know they don't have any methods in place to do that.  And I don't think there is any hatchery enhancement of pinks or chum in the Chilliwack or Harrison systems any more.

[Hike_and_fish]

The Chilliwack I understand. The boudry is a bit inside the river. You would think fish that go past that line are destined for that system. The Harrison however is not the same. The boudry is right at the mouth. It's even open to Chinook retention ( for now ) in that area as of Sept 1st. How many spawning Pinks and Chinnook pop into that boundary just for a rest ? I imagine folks will be plunking from a boat. I know I'll be come Sept 1st.

[RalphH]

This certainly looks 100% like a calculated political move to keep the rec sector (including guides) happy while not having to give any exploitation of Fraser sockeye stocks to rec or commercial sectors.  I can't imagine DFO has any idea how many pinks are returning to the Vedder this year - it is far too early to estimate the run and as far as I know they don't have any methods in place to do that.  And I don't think there is any hatchery enhancement of pinks or chum in the Chilliwack or Harrison systems any more.

wrongo all the way down.

[CohoJake]

wrongo all the way down.

At least partly - I found the data for 2017 releases and I see that the Chehalis produces some pink fry, but I don't see any hatchery production of pinks in the Chedder.  I'm not sure what in particular you disagree with otherwise - the politics of this opening, or do you know of some active sampling/counting of pinks in the Vedder to know what the return will be?

[Hike_and_fish]

wrongo all the way down.

Ralph is right on this one.

[purple monster]

Interesting they felt there are enough pinks in the Vedder and Harrison to support a rec fishery.  Is it because the Vedder and Harrison are hatchery enhanced?  Wondering how the chum fishery will turn out this year.  Last year they shut down the Stave for retention but allowed them to stay open the Vedder.

Can anyone tell me why there is no opening for pink above the Hwy 7 bridge on Harrison?  Has it always been excluded from the freshwater salmon supplement??

[Hike_and_fish]

Can anyone tell me why there is no opening for pink above the Hwy 7 bridge on Harrison?  Has it always been excluded from the freshwater salmon supplement??

I cant tell you why all I can say is, it's been like that for a while now. The last two cycles it was from what I recall.