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Author Topic: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas  (Read 5899 times)

Robert_G

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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2019, 06:54:04 PM »

Guaranteed it will be the Harrison Whites and not the Summer Reds.....cause that is just the way things are going for the sporties.
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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2019, 07:00:50 PM »

It’s whites because they have higher survival rates and spend their time in local waters.  There is also a bunch of other reasons for SRKW. They make up more of their diet then the reds, the migrate in fall where SRKW food sources are less ect

Harrison whites are the bred and budder of the local ocean fishery. Well before the closure
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2019, 07:27:43 PM »

In the early 90s, the summer fishery for the Red Springs on the Vedder was a dream...…for about 2-3 weeks right from opening day, I rarely got skunked and the fish were in great shape.....good sizes too.
Like most good kill fisheries......those days are gone.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2019, 08:45:39 PM »

I guess there will be more of this going on. I filmed this a few years ago.https://youtu.be/dI1Os8QDttI

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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2019, 08:48:16 PM »

Bunch of negative Nancies. ;D More fish produced doesn't mean more fish are coming back, these are all going to be eaten by killer whales. ;D

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2019, 09:22:29 PM »

I can't readily find the fry release stats for the hatchery. So, I'm curious..
1) What % increase is 1M over the current average release #s?
2) Do they foresee any issues getting enough brood stock to produce additional 1M?
3) Presumably the enhanced production would begin in Fall, 2019. Chwk whites return as 4 year olds, yes?, so we would see great whites returning to the river in 2023 (if the orcas don't eat them all first :) )?
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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2019, 09:37:49 PM »

I can't readily find the fry release stats for the hatchery. So, I'm curious..
1) What % increase is 1M over the current average release #s?
2) Do they foresee any issues getting enough brood stock to produce additional 1M?
3) Presumably the enhanced production would begin in Fall, 2019. Chwk whites return as 4 year olds, yes?, so we would see great whites returning to the river in 2023 (if the orcas don't eat them all first :) )?

or a whole bunch of jacks earlier
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2019, 09:41:47 PM »

Great news. The CV is now a perfect food bank for the seal population. Good job feds. Keep up the good werk
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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 07:38:09 AM »

I can't readily find the fry release stats for the hatchery. So, I'm curious..
1) What % increase is 1M over the current average release #s?
2) Do they foresee any issues getting enough brood stock to produce additional 1M?
3) Presumably the enhanced production would begin in Fall, 2019. Chwk whites return as 4 year olds, yes?, so we would see great whites returning to the river in 2023 (if the orcas don't eat them all first :) )?

Some of the answers you seek are in the IFMP
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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 09:05:19 AM »

IFMP?
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2019, 01:27:03 PM »

Just to throw a little truth and transparency in all this.

 I'm shocked (well not really) that the only reason they are finally taking the chinook stocks of concern seriously is because of a bunch of endangered whales. Are the salmon only important now because we are losing whales? If anyone ever questioned the government's actual concern over the salmon themselves...this should answer those questions. The government STILL does NOT care about the salmon. They care about the whales.....TRUTH proven by the current action taken. I'm not saying they shouldn't care about the whales....but why is ok to not care about the salmon?

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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2019, 03:49:23 PM »

Current fall white releases are 1 million, so we are talking about doubling that run.  The hatchery website suggests these fry are only reared at the hatchery for 2 months before release, so hopefully they don't take up space/resources that are currently used for coho or steelhead.
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Re: More Chinook Production In The Chilliwack River Hatchery for Orcas
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2019, 03:56:46 PM »

Like many of the coastal stocks they are known to rear in stream for no more than a few months before they head to the ocean. Unless they have excess capacity to incubate eggs and rear fry, something has to give.

As far as 'caring' about salmon as much as SRKW, DFO enhancement project release hundreds of millions of young salmon every year. Isn't that caring enough?
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