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[ClayoquotKid]

This one's got me particularly fired up, due to the remarkable disconnect between the actual study, the press release, and the resulting media response.

The stupid has been doubled down upon, and it burns.

Oh, how it burns.

[Dave]

Hang in there CK   Eventually, when farmed and wild salmon are found to be perfectly healthy people will realize this is just another in a long list of fails by our favorite activist.
The sooner the Miller-Saunders/Riddell disease work is made public the better.

[ClayoquotKid]

Hang in there CK   Eventually, when farmed and wild salmon are found to be perfectly healthy people will realize this is just another in a long list of fails by our favorite activist.
The sooner the Miller-Saunders/Riddell disease work is made public the better.

It's painful fielding questions from friends and co-workers on this one.

"How did they get through peer review if they couldn't verify the chain of custody on the farmed fish they bought at the stores?"

"How did they manage to write a press release that completely misrepresented the findings in the paper and have the media jump on it?"

"Why didn't they do something that could be repeated or confirmed using another method?"

Painful I say.

[Dave]

CK, I have to wonder how much time and money American born Morton has cost taxpaying Canadians? I truly believe the Cohen fiasco was a knee jerk reaction from Ottawa mainly brought about by her, and the opportunity to buy a few votes out west .. the money that cost us ($30 M), the time spent by people like yourself answering questions when you have more important issues, the media frenzy she has created, the public relations cost to BC's  salmon farming industry, the loss of jobs and credibility to FN who are gullible enough to buy into her story ... it just keeps piling up.  As far as I can see and read she does nothing for wild salmon, other than advocate we eat them.

And who or what is the biggest benefactor from all this? ... Alaskan fishing interests. Oh wow, now I'm like Chris talking conspiracy

[chris gadsden]

CK, I have to wonder how much time and money American born Morton has cost taxpaying Canadians? I truly believe the Cohen fiasco was a knee jerk reaction from Ottawa mainly brought about by her, and the opportunity to buy a few votes out west .. the money that cost us ($30 M), the time spent by people like yourself answering questions when you have more important issues, the media frenzy she has created, the public relations cost to BC's  salmon farming industry, the loss of jobs and credibility to FN who are gullible enough to buy into her story ... it just keeps piling up.  As far as I can see and read she does nothing for wild salmon, other than advocate we eat them.

And who or what is the biggest benefactor from all this? ... Alaskan fishing interests. Oh wow, now I'm like Chris talking conspiracy

. It has cost me a lot of MY own money and time too but that is my own choice as I am just a volunteer doing my best for the environment and the fish.

The day the pens are out of the ocean and on land we can all relax but then I will miss this thread and all the chaps that post here, well there still is Sports Chat to discuss with FA about the Canucks and the mighty Leafs that continue going upstream towards the Cup.

[Fisherbob]

So when have farmed salmon in Washington and BC harmed wild salmon Chris?

[ClayoquotKid]

. It has cost me a lot of MY own money and time too but that is my own choice as I am just a volunteer doing my best for the environment and the fish.

It's OK to not like salmon aquaculture.

It's not OK to make stuff up when you're trying to argue against it.

[chris gadsden]

So when have farmed salmon in Washington and BC harmed wild salmon Chris?

I found some interesting reading here, and I see there was concerns expressed, need to read it again to get more out of it.

http://bcsalmonfarmers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/BCSFA_Workshop_Final_Report.pdf

Also did Dr Marty work at one time for FF's? Most likely no one here would know.

[Fisherbob]

http://youtu.be/vSSgP7T54gs

[ClayoquotKid]

I found some interesting reading here, and I see there was concerns expressed, need to read it again to get more out of it.

http://bcsalmonfarmers.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/BCSFA_Workshop_Final_Report.pdf

Also did Dr Marty work at one time for FF's? Most likely no one here would know.

"Dr. Marty is a board-certified veterinary pathologist with a Master's degree in Fisheries Biology and a Ph.D. in Comparative Pathology. For the past 9 years he has served as the fish pathologist for the BC Ministry of Agriculture's veterinary diagnostic laboratory. He has over 50 peer-reviewed scientific publications, including results from a 13-year study investigating the role of disease in a marine fish population in Alaska after the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Over the past several years he has been very active in public education regarding matters of fish health."

Am I to assume that those qualifications would be disregarded if he happened to have worked in the aquaculture industry at one point?

Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if he ever has.

Just for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[chris gadsden]

Thanks for this, was just checking as I was told he did at one time. Just wanted to clear that up if you knew.

Have a good week.

[chris gadsden]

From Alex this morning, will this happen?

Dear Salmon Farmers:

Making defamatory statements about me is not helpful. I invite you, once again, to debate me in public. I think ISA virus is in BC, you don't. Let me go to your farms escorted by local First Nations to select the best samples for testing, and distribute the samples among the government labs that have also detected ISAV and Gary Marty - and then lets hold a public round table and decide what the next steps are.

[troutbreath]

"Marty has never worked for any fish farm company in Canada; in the United States, he consulted for the industry in 2000 and 2001. Since 2004, Marty has analyzed fish-farm samples for the British Columbia provincial government, which is sometimes paid a fee for those services by the farm companies. Saksida, as part of her private veterinary practice over the past 15 years, has done contract work for all three fish farm companies that operate in the study area."

https://bccahs.wordpress.com/tag/gary-marty/

[banx]

CK, I have to wonder how much time and money American born Morton has cost taxpaying Canadians? I truly believe the Cohen fiasco was a knee jerk reaction from Ottawa mainly brought about by her, and the opportunity to buy a few votes out west .. the money that cost us ($30 M), the time spent by people like yourself answering questions when you have more important issues, the media frenzy she has created, the public relations cost to BC's  salmon farming industry, the loss of jobs and credibility to FN who are gullible enough to buy into her story ... it just keeps piling up.  As far as I can see and read she does nothing for wild salmon, other than advocate we eat them.

And who or what is the biggest benefactor from all this? ... Alaskan fishing interests. Oh wow, now I'm like Chris talking conspiracy

you know, a conspiracy doesn't seem too far fetched.  maybe the yanks were choked at us for everything marc emery did down there.  so they sent us morton, and now they're having the last laugh.

[Dave]

you know, a conspiracy doesn't seem too far fetched.  maybe the yanks were choked at us for everything marc emery did down there.  so they sent us morton, and now they're having the last laugh.

LOL!!