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Fisherbob

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #675 on: January 19, 2014, 12:38:37 PM »

Can't make it past the first page with out asking for donations lol. As for your part time work NB, how does it compare to the tourist and our sport fishing industry? Oh never mind, you do not answer questions. Same as Doc Morton.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #676 on: January 19, 2014, 11:30:40 PM »

Here you go Steve - read this and tell me again about the 6000 jobs (and growing, much like that stories nose) and the wonderful economic engines the feedlots are, spewing cash all over the province. All rearng is done organically and they change those Depends every 2 hours. ::) Jobs, jobs and more jobs. ;D ::)Wanna revise that theory? Oh wait a minute. This is the Canadian arm. Although they do it everywhere else, they wouldn't do it here......would they?
 
https://www.georgiastrait.org/files/share/PDF/CCPA_fish_farms.pdf

Did you happen to check the date on that article you posted?  You found some old data (Bummer, eh?).  It might be beneficial to have more recent statistics.  As for most of those 6000 jobs being part time and on call in the processing end that is not exactly what I found; however, it is conceivable that fish and seafood processors handle fish and seafood products harvested by the capture fishery as well as those produced by the aquaculture sector (i.e. Walcan).  If you are also going to talk about part-time employment you will definitely find it in the capture fisheries which you didn’t mention.  In fairness, I found out that measuring employment figures with industries like aquaculture is difficult and that employment in the industry has decreased by 10% between 2000 and 2011 (not sure if that includes all aquaculture – not just farmed salmon).  Nevertheless, there is no doubt that with the declines in forestry and commercial fisheries that aquaculture has become more prominent in a variety of communities on Vancouver Island like Campbell River.  It is not just the fish farm companies themselves, but the many companies that supply goods and services to the aquaculture industry (i.e. nets, fish processing, transportation, diving services, machinery, etc.).

Overall, the economic importance of salmon aquaculture to the province is fairly small when compared to other marine-based industries. Sports fishing, commercial fishing, salmon processing, and marine tourism all surpass salmon farming in GDP, employment, and export revenue. – Fishy Business: The Economics of Salmon Farming in BC (2003).

If you look over the long term (2000 to 2011) and compare real GDP increases between capture fisheries, sport fisheries, fish processing and aquaculture you will notice that the BC aquaculture industry has experience the most dramatic growth, increasing 47.7% since 2000.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/aquaculture/ref/aqua-es2009-eng.htm#ch3
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/research-resources/2008_industryprofile_pwc.pdf
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/british_columbias_fisheries_and_aquaculture_sector_2012_edition.pdf
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/omfd/fishstats/proc/index.html


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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #677 on: January 19, 2014, 11:33:10 PM »


Hilarious!



Which one is you? You both seem happy...Congratulations.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #679 on: January 23, 2014, 04:15:08 PM »

Earning your paycheck at the fishfarm today bawb. Some days you've been slacking off. :-\
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #680 on: January 24, 2014, 09:13:35 AM »

Rebutal to Doc Morton's astroturfing.
I found it an interesting listen.
  Jan 23 2014 CKNW Radio.

http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/radio-programs-salmon-farming
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #681 on: January 24, 2014, 04:57:37 PM »

Rebutal to Doc Morton's astroturfing.
I found it an interesting listen.
  Jan 23 2014 CKNW Radio.

http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/radio-programs-salmon-farming

Is this you the guy is replying to bawb:

"Yeah, so Suzuki may have overstated his case. I’m suspicious of that web site you cite, being an opponent of fish farming myself. Suzuki was mentioned in my post about genetically engineered trees. I guess your point is he’s not credible? Or are you trying to make a more general point about environmentalists?"

You never did answer back :-\

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #683 on: January 31, 2014, 04:32:12 PM »

Bawb your posting garbage on that link.


http://environmental-history-science.blogspot.ca/2014/01/salmon-confidential-video-science-and.html#!/2014/01/salmon-confidential-video-science-and.html

"I'll probably use it in the classroom.  It's useful as an example of using video to bring science into a public debate.  It's also useful because there are two relevant websites: one accompanying the film, salmonconfidential.ca, which provides supporting material, and salmonconfidential.com, set up by an anonymous salmon farmer as an attempt to refute the film."

I don't see the name on the person responding to his blog. Marty? or smarty pants anonymous salmon farmer? I did find this responce from Marty.
http://environmental-history-science.blogspot.ca/2014/01/salmon-confidential-response-from-dr.html#!/2014/01/salmon-confidential-response-from-dr.html

Hopefully your not doing that kind of work at the fish farm or your going to kill off the dirty fish. :P

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Re: Get your facts straight?
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #688 on: February 05, 2014, 09:32:01 PM »

Other than Dave or Steve , nobody bothers to read your self serving links Bawb. I'm finding ignoring the bologna very liberating, but I do miss the belly laughs...
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #689 on: February 05, 2014, 09:43:05 PM »

Nova it's funny you would post that on a thread that has 688 reply's and 22thousand some views.  Even funnier that the thread is called "get your facts straight".  And you really believe that only steve and dave read bawbs post's.  Thanks for the demonstration.
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