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Blackgivesway2blue

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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 04:30:48 PM »

dontcha think using procure on your feathers would kind of be cheating ? ;)

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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 01:39:32 AM »

dontcha think using procure on your feathers would kind of be cheating ? ;)

yeah I thought that after I posted, but then again after rinsing it off a bunch of times it would just be like any other dye
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 02:10:20 PM »

regardless of rinsing it the procure still leeches stuff into the water until the colour of the dye has diluted to nothing. I have fished roe until it lost all colour before LOL talk about not getting a bite or what !!!  >:(

the two dyes i mentioned will not fade  ;)
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 11:27:45 AM »

I have been using procure to dye feathers and fur for over 20 years, it wont leech off like some dyes.

a dip in vinagar after dying helps.
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 11:52:36 AM »

thats for chiming in Jim, good to know. now if procure only came in a large array of colours. the process i used also uses a vinegar to "set" the dye so it wont fade or leech out.
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2012, 05:39:27 PM »

haha, anything is worth a try I guess
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2012, 09:36:24 PM »

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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 11:35:30 PM »

yikes  :o when did they start making so many colours ?

can you tell im not a bait guy by how little i know about it ?

I know how to make decent/good roe which is all i need  ;)
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 08:12:58 AM »

yeah I thought that after I posted, but then again after rinsing it off a bunch of times it would just be like any other dye

Would a CO agree if there was a bait ban in place?  Of course it would be difficult to tell that procure was used as your dye... but you would know (I am guessing here that the dyes are scented like other pro cure products).
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 09:54:46 AM »

there is no scent in dye, and procure to dye featheres is perfectly legal.
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 11:27:42 PM »

there is no scent in dye, and procure to dye featheres is perfectly legal.

Good to know.
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2012, 04:12:59 PM »

Could just use fabric dye too. I havent had to do this yet though. Still able to get the stuff. But it would be kind of nice to dye the stuff instead of buying so many capes
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2012, 08:35:40 PM »

awurban - read higher on the thread RIT is fabric dye(which i mentioned) and Koolaid is what stoners and poor people drink instead of pop  ;) LOL

i personally like using Koolaid because its so cheap and available almost anywhere
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2012, 08:59:43 PM »

Ahh lol I missed the RIT. I will have to give that a try. have any of you guys been tying Prom Dresses lately. A fishing buddy of mine got a nice brown on a red one. I started using them when the water is blown out. I havent hooked any steel on them yet but they are definitely bright in the dirty water
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Re: Steelhead Intruder Flies
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2012, 09:40:41 PM »

Ahh lol I missed the RIT. I will have to give that a try. have any of you guys been tying Prom Dresses lately. A fishing buddy of mine got a nice brown on a red one. I started using them when the water is blown out. I havent hooked any steel on them yet but they are definitely bright in the dirty water

Interesting point of thought, red is the first colour scattered and absorbed by the suspended particles in the dirty water (due to the longer wavelength), so your red fly likely appears grey to the fish and would not be that visible in the dirty water.  A good rule of thumb is to use colours in the blue wavelengths (blue and violet) in coloured water, as they are the last to be absorbed (similar principle as to why the distant mountains appear blue through what da Vinci termed the atmospheric effect).   Of course colour is probably not as important as the profile and the movement it makes, and black probably provides the best silhouette in dirty conditions.

If you are interested in a good read of fly colour, check this out:

http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/
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