Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: awurban@msn.com on December 16, 2011, 10:03:24 PM
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I thought it would be a cool if we started a thread where we share our steelhead intruder flies. Kind of like a brainstorm of ideas and to help people tie intruders. Here is one I tied the other day on a tube fly. Lets see your intruders
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr242/awurban/IMG_4719.jpg)
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here are a few of my more recent ties
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/clearsquidro.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/IMG_3819.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/P4140017.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/IMG_3763.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Flaming_Hook/181761_10150411215175790_549240789_17444771_6707834_n.jpg)
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Nice Flies man, is that jungle cock in that last picture, those are really nice looking flies.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr242/awurban/IMG_4694.jpg)
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr242/awurban/IMG_4689.jpg)
Anyone else have some to share?
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yes of course its Jungle Cock, I would have it in more of my Intruder style flies however i tend to forget it alot LOL
nice flies as well ;D
apparently noone else is showing theirs lol
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I just tied another variation of my other fly its pretty similar but a bit smaller and a bit more heavily dressed.
(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr242/awurban/IMG_4727.jpg)
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where are you guys finding grizzly hackle? Thats the one thing my flies are missing
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I am getting mine on the Island, Robinsons Outdoor Store. It was really hard to find for a while but its getting a bit better.
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yeah it's pretty brutal on the mainland. The only ones I can find are some on ebay for like $2 per strand or some I have stumbled across at random stores...as hair jewelery for like $20. It's simple but looks killer :( one shop which will not be named had them a while ago for $100 a pack >:( taking advantage!
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yeah it's pretty brutal on the mainland. The only ones I can find are some on ebay for like $2 per strand or some I have stumbled across at random stores...as hair jewelery for like $20. It's simple but looks killer :( one shop which will not be named had them a while ago for $100 a pack >:( taking advantage!
I have resorted to making my own using white hackle and a permanent marker.
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I have resorted to buying white grizzle capes and making chunks and dying the colours i want. i just use Koolaid to dye it, Google it for instructions.
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I have resorted to buying white grizzle capes and making chunks and dying the colours i want. i just use Koolaid to dye it, Google it for instructions.
that's not a bad idea, I like your style. tried food coloring but it turned out too dark and made a big mess of everything
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be damn careful because koolaid can also dye your counter tops. I have 1 blue spot and a purple spot from my first batches cause i wasnt paying close enough attention. I used the koolaid and microwave technique, follow instructions its super easy
the blue hackle is what i dyed same with the purple. I actually have several other colours that i had bought already because i use them for other flies also (like red and orange) i played around trying to get a hot pink but koolaid doesnt work good enough so you may want to look into using RIT dye instead. RIT is also good for other colours ive been told but it WILL stain things very easily
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I will try the kool aid thing soon...Maybe you could use procure and water with white hackle? A sprinle of red fire cure in water makes my prawns hot pink, maybe it will work for feathers too?
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im pretty sure you wouldnt wanna use procure on feathers and im not kidding about following the instructions because the feathers need to be washed first or they wont dye very well ;)
good luck with your dying adventure
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Thanks hook
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dontcha think using procure on your feathers would kind of be cheating ? ;)
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dontcha think using procure on your feathers would kind of be cheating ? ;)
yeah I thought that after I posted, but then again after rinsing it off a bunch of times it would just be like any other dye
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regardless of rinsing it the procure still leeches stuff into the water until the colour of the dye has diluted to nothing. I have fished roe until it lost all colour before LOL talk about not getting a bite or what !!! >:(
the two dyes i mentioned will not fade ;)
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I have been using procure to dye feathers and fur for over 20 years, it wont leech off like some dyes.
a dip in vinagar after dying helps.
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thats for chiming in Jim, good to know. now if procure only came in a large array of colours. the process i used also uses a vinegar to "set" the dye so it wont fade or leech out.
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haha, anything is worth a try I guess
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what colour you want ?
http://www.pro-cure.com/bait_dyes.html (http://www.pro-cure.com/bait_dyes.html)
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yikes :o when did they start making so many colours ?
can you tell im not a bait guy by how little i know about it ?
I know how to make decent/good roe which is all i need ;)
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yeah I thought that after I posted, but then again after rinsing it off a bunch of times it would just be like any other dye
Would a CO agree if there was a bait ban in place? Of course it would be difficult to tell that procure was used as your dye... but you would know (I am guessing here that the dyes are scented like other pro cure products).
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there is no scent in dye, and procure to dye featheres is perfectly legal.
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there is no scent in dye, and procure to dye featheres is perfectly legal.
Good to know.
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Could just use fabric dye too. I havent had to do this yet though. Still able to get the stuff. But it would be kind of nice to dye the stuff instead of buying so many capes
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awurban - read higher on the thread RIT is fabric dye(which i mentioned) and Koolaid is what stoners and poor people drink instead of pop ;) LOL
i personally like using Koolaid because its so cheap and available almost anywhere
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Ahh lol I missed the RIT. I will have to give that a try. have any of you guys been tying Prom Dresses lately. A fishing buddy of mine got a nice brown on a red one. I started using them when the water is blown out. I havent hooked any steel on them yet but they are definitely bright in the dirty water
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Ahh lol I missed the RIT. I will have to give that a try. have any of you guys been tying Prom Dresses lately. A fishing buddy of mine got a nice brown on a red one. I started using them when the water is blown out. I havent hooked any steel on them yet but they are definitely bright in the dirty water
Interesting point of thought, red is the first colour scattered and absorbed by the suspended particles in the dirty water (due to the longer wavelength), so your red fly likely appears grey to the fish and would not be that visible in the dirty water. A good rule of thumb is to use colours in the blue wavelengths (blue and violet) in coloured water, as they are the last to be absorbed (similar principle as to why the distant mountains appear blue through what da Vinci termed the atmospheric effect). Of course colour is probably not as important as the profile and the movement it makes, and black probably provides the best silhouette in dirty conditions.
If you are interested in a good read of fly colour, check this out:
http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/ (http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/)
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(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406773_759725677716_122505749_37715633_1253230494_n.jpg)
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Interesting point of thought, red is the first colour scattered and absorbed by the suspended particles in the dirty water (due to the longer wavelength), so your red fly likely appears grey to the fish and would not be that visible in the dirty water. A good rule of thumb is to use colours in the blue wavelengths (blue and violet) in coloured water, as they are the last to be absorbed (similar principle as to why the distant mountains appear blue through what da Vinci termed the atmospheric effect). Of course colour is probably not as important as the profile and the movement it makes, and black probably provides the best silhouette in dirty conditions.
If you are interested in a good read of fly colour, check this out:
http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/ (http://midcurrent.com/science/fish-eyesight-does-color-matter/)
Thanks for the info man, I am just reading the whole article; sounds pretty interesting. Matt Thats a nice one I like the olive colours.
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Here is one I tied with rubber legs the other day. I have clear water in mind for this one. Rigged it the original Ed Ward/Jerry French style. The hook hanging from the loop is only temporary. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75870757@N08/6810445360/in/photostream/)
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Here is one I tied with rubber legs the other day. I have clear water in mind for this one. Rigged it the original Ed Ward/Jerry French style. The hook hanging from the loop is only temporary. (http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u438/pnwsteelhead/ViseSquidro.jpg)
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sorry, new to the forum. Cant seem to get the photo to show up. FLYBC is soo much easier!!!
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upload them to photobucket then just copy/paste the IMG code into your post and it the pic will appear
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Here is one I tied with rubber legs the other day. I have clear water in mind for this one. Rigged it the original Ed Ward/Jerry French style. The hook hanging from the loop is only temporary. (http://[IMG]http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u438/pnwsteelhead/ViseSquidro.jpg)[/img]
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Thank you for the help. I was using flickr and pasting the URL ??? :D
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Thats a nice looking fly, I silly legs work good and so does those buggy ones with the curves in them. I have been tying a smaller intruder lately I will have to post a couple picks. I am finding that since I went down in size a little bit its so much easier to pull it up and out of the water after the hang and it casts like theres almost nothing there. I guess I just had to use a smaller led eye and tie a bit more sparse
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I fish unweighted intruders if can get away with it!! Much more enjoyable to fish.
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you ever have problems with your unweighted ones not riding properly though ?
there is a reason why there is even a little weight tied to the underside of the shank so it forces the fly to always ride the way you want it to. I have tried unweighted ones but they sure do like to turn on their sides >:(
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I combat this by NOT tying unweighted flies on with a loop knot. This only works with turned up eye shanks. What I do, and was taught this by a friend, is to double over the tippet about three inches depending on the size of the fly. Run the loop over and under the fly so that the leader goes straight through the eye, under the head of the fly, back up over the head and straight out the front of the eye. Then tie a uni knot, as in double over the tag and then four times around itself. When the knot tightens, the knot should be resting between the head and the eye of the shank. If that makes sense to you. This allows the leader to run straight out the front which helps to keep it oriented in the water. Of course this is not 100% way to keep your flies from flipping and flopping. All of my unweighted flies are tied in the round, so there is no top and bottom ex. marabou tubes, intruders etc.