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chris gadsden

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Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« on: November 04, 2011, 10:01:45 AM »

The heat is on big time now.

COHEN COMMISSION OF INQUIRY | Cohen Commission issues statement about dealing with new virus reports
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Cohen Commission issues statement about dealing with new virus reportsVANCOUVER, Nov. 4, 2011 /CNW/ - Brian Wallace, senior commission counsel for the Cohen Commission of Inquiry into the Decline of Sockeye Salmon in the Fraser River issued the following statement today:

"Testing of samples of Pacific salmon from two areas of the province has indicated the possible presence of the Infectious Salmon Anemia (ISA) virus in several Pacific salmon. The commission has been advised that further results will be available in about one month. We have requested disclosure of documents related to these fish and the current testing.

The commission plans to convene a two-day hearing in mid-December to put new information about the possible presence of the ISA virus in BC on the commission's record. Further details, including any witnesses or exhibits for those days of hearings, will be released later."

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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 04:15:30 PM »

The heat is on big time now.


What does it mean though?
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 04:42:06 PM »

Salmon virus suspected in B.C. again
The Canadian Press Posted: Nov 4, 2011 3:14 PM PT Last Updated: Nov 4, 2011 4:32 PM PT Read 0 comments0
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The Canadian Food Inspection Agency says it is aware of another suspected case of a highly infectious salmon virus in B.C., but it will take weeks to verify the findings.

The agency confirmed this week that a laboratory at the University of Prince Edward Island suspects infectious salmon anemia in a coho salmon from B.C. A Department of Fisheries and Oceans lab in Moncton, N.B. is now validating the results.

Observers of the nearly two-decade-long debate between salmon farmers and their critics say if a potentially devastating European strain of the disease is confirmed, the findings could provide the "smoking gun" environmentalists have long been looking for to turn the argument in their favour.

'This is just exactly the kind of thing we did not want to have happen.'
—Fish farm critic Alexandra Morton"Presuming that [the samples being tested] are the same variant of the virus that's found elsewhere in the world, then I think that would cause serious problems to our salmon farming industry," said Peter Robson, author of the book "Salmon Farming: The Whole Story."

"It would mean that we've imported a disease from another country for the first time as far as salmon farming goes."

Public inquiry ongoing
The announcement comes at a critical time in B.C.

The Cohen Commission, which is studying what caused the collapse of the Fraser River sockeye run in 2009, began hearing final arguments Friday, but announced it would add two days of hearings next month devoted solely to the virus.

Almost two weeks ago, Rick Routledge, a Simon Fraser University fish-population statistician, announced ISA had also been found in two sockeye smolts from B.C's Central Coast, a finding federal officials are trying to verify.

According to the CFIA website, the virus can kill up to 90 per cent of infected fish, although some strains do not cause high mortality rates.

The European strain of the disease was linked to an outbreak on fish farms in Chile a few years ago, and the industry lost 70 per cent of its stocks.

But it's not clear how the disease would affect wild or farmed fish stocks in B.C.

No human risk
While the virus' causes are unknown, ISA is not a risk to human health, says the agency, which also notes a vaccine is available to prevent the disease but no treatment is available for fish already infected.

The virus found in the Harrison Lake coho, in B.C.'s Fraser Valley, was of the European strain, said a report by the Atlantic veterinary college at the University of PEI.

Routledge previously announced that the findings from the Central Coast were of the same strain that wiped out farmed salmon stocks in Chile.

Biologist and fish farm critic Alexandra Morton said she sent the Harrison Lake samples to the veterinary college after collecting dead salmon from the area on Oct. 12.

Morton said she received results of those tests this week, confirming low levels of the European virus in the heart of a coho.

"There's really no winning this for me anymore because the damage has been done," said Morton. "This is just exactly the kind of thing we did not want to have happen — an exotic virus coming in. So from here on in, it's just trying to reduce the damage."

Pathologist and microbiologist Fred Kibenge, who conducted the tests, was unavailable for comment. Instead, the university directed media questions to the food inspection agency.

The source of the disease remains unknown. Critics of salmon farms blame the industry, but the industry vigorously contests the allegations.

Mary Ellen Walling, executive director of the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association, said ISA's presence in British Columbia has not yet been confirmed and it has not appeared on member farms even though more than 5,000 samples have been tested.

Daniel Pauly, a professor and director of UBC's fisheries centre, has been watching the debate since he came to B.C. in 1994 and said a piece of the province's culture is at stake.

"What is at stake is actually wild salmon," he said. "In Europe there is almost no wild salmon left. So there is not so much of a risk. In B.C., the wild salmon are huge and iconic in the province."

Pauly said he suspects the virus has come from the industry because millions of Atlantic salmon eggs have been imported to B.C.

© The Canadian Press, 2011

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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 10:43:39 PM »

damn. either way wild fish are screwed.
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 02:51:04 AM »

The more I read about ISA the more confused I am. It seems like it is not always fatal in other species of salmon?  Is it confirmed that the coho, chum and chinook tested were killed by the virus or is it possible they died of other causes, but we're ISA carriers?  This is an interesting read: http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/infectious_salmon_anemia.pdf.  The one commonality I find in all the info about  ISA is that once it takes a foothold it can get out of control quickly :(.
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 08:47:47 AM »

  Is it confirmed that the coho, chum and chinook tested were killed by the virus or is it possible they died of other causes, but we're ISA carriers? 
No, it was not confirmed the fish died from ISAV.  Thanks for the link.
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 09:12:04 AM »

The good news seems to be that the fish farms lost their appeal to have the ISAV information excluded from the Cohen commission enquiry. Because it's on the record it has to be dealt with.

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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 12:01:48 PM »

It's great news providing there is a conclusive link established between the salmon found carrying the virus and the imported Atlantic eggs.  Morton et al also need to prove that ISA is as deadly for the wild stocks as the farmed ones. Overall it's bad news, but if it is dealt with proactively I'm cautiously optimist the impact on the wild stocks will be minimal, while the impact on the farms will be enough to shut them down!
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 02:34:10 PM »

No, it was not confirmed the fish died from ISAV.  Thanks for the link.

ditto.

not easy to understand at all.
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 02:37:21 PM »

It's great news providing there is a conclusive link established between the salmon found carrying the virus and the imported Atlantic eggs.  Morton et al also need to prove that ISA is as deadly for the wild stocks as the farmed ones. Overall it's bad news, but if it is dealt with proactively I'm cautiously optimist the impact on the wild stocks will be minimal, while the impact on the farms will be enough to shut them down!


In Europe they basicaly said . it's here now so we may as well continue. :)
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 04:25:13 PM »

honestly the best thing that could happen is the US bans all atlantic salmon from entering there country as there 1 of the major markets for these franken fish anyways !!! ;D
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 04:51:11 PM »

honestly the best thing that could happen is the US bans all atlantic salmon from entering there country as there 1 of the major markets for these franken fish anyways !!! ;D
franken fish??  please explain
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Re: Breaking News, Cohen - Fish Farms
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 04:56:46 PM »

franken fish??  please explain

these fish are treated with antibiotics, fed food they wouldn't eat in the wild, pumped up with all sorts of stuff a wild fish would never see!
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 05:35:42 PM »

these fish are treated with antibiotics, fed food they wouldn't eat in the wild, pumped up with all sorts of stuff a wild fish would never see!
Wow, sounds like any hatchery coho, chinook, pink, chum, sockeye, rainbow/steelhead or char reared in any BC, Washington, Oregon or California salmonid hatchery or “ranched” in Alaska.
My understanding of the term franken fish is some journalist's spin on genetically modified fish IE, growing faster, near disease free, basically becoming more domesticated but requiring less nutrients to reach marketable size.  Makes sense to me as I suspect it does to any animal or plant farmers.
But I'm still not sure if this is that what you mean?

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2011, 07:24:20 AM »

these fish are treated with antibiotics, fed food they wouldn't eat in the wild, pumped up with all sorts of stuff a wild fish would never see!
Myths galore.  Frankenfish implies genetically modified.  Atlantic salmon on BC fish farms are not gentically modified.

Antibiotics are only used on farmed fish when required.  What else are they "pumped" up with?

I hope you never have consumed a hatchery or ranched salmon or you would probably be equally grossed out...lol.
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