To the coyotes, I was going to reply to some of the comments but didn't have time this morning when I made the previous post (was in a hurry to go fishing, it's a tough life
) so here are some additional comments.
To understand why there are so many "negative" comments, you have to understand where the frustration has been building up. This is not an isolated event and we are certainly not attempting to ganging up on a group of kids who should be enjoying their upcoming accomplishment. Each year, around this time and also throughout the summer, we come across these situations from time to time. Since the establishment of the cleanup coalition in 2002, volunteers have discovered and cleaned up numerous abandoned campsites that were left like a war zone. Take a look at these:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/?p=23http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=20714.0http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=18160.0http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3905.0In the last couple of posts, you asked why others were still giving you a hard time when you had apologized. I went back and reread the posts and didn’t find any apologies until page 3. Not suggesting that some of you are not sorry, but the apologies were actually not made when you wanted to. Readers were angered when they only read that you attempted to justify your actions. For example, these were your first posts:
Thank you for cleaning it up. but you can't very well get mad at us for doing what the rangers told us to do...
And I'll talk to our principals on monday and tell them to inform the grad class of 2011 to clean up their mess better than we did, but unfortunatly that's all that I can do.
Well for the most part, most of us cleaned up our messes and I put my garbage in my cooler and brought it home.
Adding a number of inappropriate posts by a few boys that we have moved to a deleted section, it only dumped more fuel on fire. Anyway, this is not an attempt to finger point as one has put it early
but simply demonstrating why the discussion can become so long. For a grander scale, look at What public pressure that BP has to deal with right now.
People understand mistakes happen, but they want to see mistakes being acknowledged and learned. We see no immediate solution to this problem. It’s likely that we will be discussing this again next year when another grad class does the same thing. Since these aren’t sanctioned events by schools, they see these as beyond their responsibility. Nobody seems to be interested in taking on the task of prevention, so you can understand where the pessimism comes from.
Anyway, this discussion is ending in a good note as it has generated plenty of interest. All of you could have ignored it but you've chosen to engage in the discussion, which shows that you care.
Okay Rodney Hsu!
Here's a link to YOUURR profile
http://www.facebook.com/rodney.hsu
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1554581593
I guess this is your wife or girlfriend? Or maybe shes your sister?!
Still sharing the phone number?! <phone number removed>
WEELLL good to see how things are going
Kreston, like some of your peers, instead of acknowledging what you have done, you’ve made it personal and taken the low road to make the above post. Not entirely sure what the point is, majority of my personal information is readily available for the public due to my occupation. Finding my Facebook profile should not be considered as great detective work. We had a pretty good chuckle about it. Secondly, the second profile has no relation to me, if you have been making phone calls to that individual, perhaps be a gentleman by calling back to apologize. Posting Facebook profile is one matter, taking it to another step by posting additional personal information such as phone number is taken very seriously. Personally attacking me does not accomplish anything except demonstrating that you are not sorry for what you and your peers have done.
All the other deleted comments have or will be shared with the principal as we correspond with each other in the coming weeks regarding this issue. We hope to develop a better communication tool that can prevent grads from making the same mistakes without dampening their celebrations in the future.