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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2006, 02:53:26 PM »
HE SHOULD B ASHAMED OF HIMSELF !
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2006, 03:01:34 PM »
Hi newsman. If you have the time to make some of those patterns, I'll be the first one to buy them off you. Thanks again for your help.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 03:39:52 PM »
Quote from: newsman on November 16, 2006, 09:41:06 AM
I shared a bunch of my patterns, tying instructions included with a shop owner a year ago. I did this so everyone could have easy access to them. After I sent a few students there to aquire some of my recomended patterns, I receaved reports that he was not supplying them. I went back and asked him why he hadn't had his tyers make a bunch up (the agreement was that I would supply samples along with tying instructions and he would stock them in his store. this would give me a place to send anglers looking for my patterns). His responce was that the patterns I had developed were to good to share with everyone and that we did not want everyone to get as good as us. That from a store owner; Go figure? Anyway I have boycotted his store since that day. It is my wish to share my success with others not keep it to a selct group. This is why I shared my patterns with BwiBwi last year. As I said he is more computer literate than I so perhaps between Bwi, Rod, & Chrome we can get them on the board. 

Being that I am a loyal customer of his I am going to copy what you just wrote and bring it up with him. Nothing like bashing a store owner over the internet knowing he is not going to be on here to defend himself. I have no respect for you and you should be ashamed of yourself for slandering a business on the web like that. Thats his bread and butter and by doing this you are taking food out of his kids mouths.

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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2006, 03:48:56 PM »
Sorry newsman, have to agree with bbronswyk2000 on this one. I've modified the posts and taken out the name.

As for the fly patterns, we can certainly find some time next year to make videos.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2006, 03:50:31 PM by Rodney »
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2006, 04:30:12 PM »
I'd have to side with Bryan too. Maybe your flies were no longer instock because they didn't sell. And what he said to you was his attempt not to say "Your flies suck!!!". The thing is for anything to sell it has to catch the customers eye, and then they will find out if it actually works. Something tells me your flies (because you describe them as being matte, or dull with no flash) would not attract the customers eye. I have tied flies for a shop before too, and let me tell you, they look much different then those in my fly box.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2006, 05:23:14 PM »
I'm with BB on this one to.

I find it hard to believe that a store owner or anyone else would say that there are fly patterns to good to share with anyone. If it was my business I would tell everyone and reap the rewards.

No such thing as to good a fly pattern imo, especially for Salmon in fresh water. Pretty well anything will work. I tie huge amounts of salmon flies every season and there is a real good chance that your patterns and mine and anyone else that ties are similar. Maybe the color combos, size or weights are different but in the end they all work, even though I have no doubt that your particular patterns are a consistent producer.
I still say for consistent successful salmon fishing in fresh water getting the fly down to the fish is more important than the fly. I'm sure there are many that will disagree.

Fly patterns are as good as the confidence you have fishing them.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2006, 06:16:41 PM »
Say what you will fellas I have no reason to lie.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2006, 06:20:49 PM »
Quote from: newsman on November 17, 2006, 06:16:41 PM
Say what you will fellas I have no reason to lie.

You were still in the wrong for posting it on an internet forum. Regardless if you are right or wrong. How about you tell me what you do for a living so I can go on a bunch of forums and slander you and the business in which you work? Should be ok right since you find it ok....
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2006, 06:39:55 PM »
Point taken bbronswyk you are right I stand corrected. As a point of reffernce my wife happened to be looking over my shoulder and saw your post and wanted to know what it was all about. Well needless to say she was not impressed. I see the error of my ways, am embarrassed, an apologize for acting in haste with out thinking it all through.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2006, 06:42:04 PM »
Quote from: newsman on November 17, 2006, 06:39:55 PM
my wife happened to be looking over my shoulder and saw your post and wanted to know what it was all about. Well needless to say she was not impressed.

Somebody is in big trouble tonight... ;D

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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2006, 07:21:28 PM »
Takes a big man to admit when he makes a mistake. Kudos to you  :)
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2006, 07:32:56 PM »
Quote from: newsman on November 17, 2006, 06:39:55 PM
Point taken bbronswyk you are right I stand corrected. As a point of reffernce my wife happened to be looking over my shoulder and saw your post and wanted to know what it was all about. Well needless to say she was not impressed. I see the error of my ways, am embarrassed, an apologize for acting in haste with out thinking it all through.


Wow,

How refreshing to see someone acknowledge a not so well thought out post. Good on ya.

PS - When it comes to black Salmon flies all I've used or tie is either a black or egg sucking leech. Your Flat Black sounds interesting.
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Re: The Stave; where else would I be.
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2006, 07:52:04 PM »
The "fly" I'd use would be green wool, tied up to look like Elvis. Worked for me there. I call it a Green Elvis.
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another SLICE of dirty fish perhaps?