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[BigFisher]

Springs, hatchery coho can be kept from the vedder during this time? Is it still one spring over 60 cm, 3 under, and 4 hatchery coho a day?

[Rodney]

This is also a good opportunity to review the regulations for the Chilliwack River.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm

Daily quota
Chinook salmon = 4 per day, only 1 maybe over 62cm
Hatchery coho salmon = 4 per day
Chum salmon = 1 per day
Wild coho salmon must be released
Sockeye salmon must be released

You are only allowed a total of four salmon per day (eg. 2 coho and 2 chinook, or 3 coho and 1 chinook, or 4 chinook and 0 coho, etc)

A hatchery coho salmon does not have an adipose fin.

Please make sure you know the difference between a chinook jack and a wild coho salmon (both have adipose fin, but you can only keep a chinook jack).

Please make sure you know the difference between a coho and a sockeye salmon. Some sockeye salmon (Cultus Lake fish) are also missing an adipose fin, they must be released unlike the hatchery coho salmon.

[casinoJim]

Isn't this where you come in with pics showing the difference between a Chinook jack and a wild Coho?
I think a gallery showing the difference would be very helpful to the newer fishermen headed out to the Vedder this fall.

Just a thought.

CJ.

[Rodney]

I know, I am searching for them right now actually. They'll be available sometimes this weekend.

[Rodney]

Ok here they are, found a bunch of information from the archive.

What does a hatchery coho salmon look like?

http://Chilliwack River Adipose Clip Sockeye Alert

Chinook jacks

Another chinook jack

Wild coho - This one was found dead on the bank last year

Hatchery coho

Hatchery coho jack

[Big Steel]

Nice Rodney, thanks for all the info and pics!!   But guys, you wouldn't believe how many years it took him to compile that pciture data for us!!!   Good job Rodney on gettin it done!!

[cohokid]

you have to tag jack springs on ur license as well right? im 16 new to the lincence tagging of springs. and my dad doesnt usually keep many springs.

[Rodney]

You do not have to tag jack springs. Only adult springs (62cm and above in the Chilliwack River) need to be tagged.

Nice Rodney, thanks for all the info and pics!!   But guys, you wouldn't believe how many years it took him to compile that pciture data for us!!!

It was not easy...

[FlyFishin Magician]

You raise an interesting question cohokid.  On my license, it says to document retained adult springs.  I always understood that an adult chinook in the Vedder/Chilliwack system is over 62 cm (approx. 24 - 25 inches).    But this quote is right from the DFO website:

It is illegal to "fail to record immediately, on your license, in ink, any chinook salmon retained."

So by "any" are we saying that chinook jacks must be recorded and included in the yearly quota of 10 springs per year?  I've only retained two spring jacks and that was last year.  Also, I've only retained three adult chinook in the last 8 years of flyfishing for salmon!  Anyway, some clarity would be appreciated... .

[FlyFishin Magician]

I see that Rodney's just commented on the above.  Is there anywhere on the DFO website that will confirm Rodney's interpretation?  I tried looking for "adult chinook" under the glossary but I couldn't find it... .

[naluwan]

Hi, I am just wondering if fishing roe/wool under a float is the most common fishing method on vedder. I"ve never fished vedder, so I'd like to know what is the most effective way of fishing there.

By the way, is BB still allowed on Fraser river? As I was at Pegleg yesterday, and the majority of people there were still doing that. I myself was barfishing with a spin n glow with no luck . For the people who've had success barfishing on Fraser, were you using spin the glow along with roe/wool/scent, or just the spin and glow itself was enough to entice a bite from the spring? Thanks

[Fish Assassin]

Hi, I am just wondering if fishing roe/wool under a float is the most common fishing method on vedder.

Yes

By the way, is BB still allowed on Fraser river?

Yes, but DFO has requested you fish selectively ie. use shorter leaders.

[Rodney]

Hi, I am just wondering if fishing roe/wool under a float is the most common fishing method on vedder. I"ve never fished vedder, so I'd like to know what is the most effective way of fishing there.

Hi naluwan, here are some readings that may help you with fishing on the Vedder River.

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2003/1003_01.html

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/articles/2004/1104_01.html

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=7906.0

[Rodney]

I see that Rodney's just commented on the above.  Is there anywhere on the DFO website that will confirm Rodney's interpretation?  I tried looking for "adult chinook" under the glossary but I couldn't find it... .

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Freshwater/region2_e.htm

Point number 5

There is an annual limit of 10 adult chinook.  All retained adult chinook must be recorded on the back of your freshwater angling licence.  An "adult chinook" in Region 2 is defined as being over 50 cm except in: a) the Fraser River between the CPR bridge at Mission to the powerline crossing approximately 1 km above the Aggasiz /Rosedale bridge from Sep 01 - Dec 31, b) the Chilliwack/Vedder River downstream of Slesse Creek including that portion of the Sumas River downstream from the Barrow Town Pump station to boundary signs near the confluence with the Fraser River from Jul 01 - Dec 31, and c) the Capilano River - year round, when adult chinook are defined as being over 62 cm.

[BigFisher]

Is it worth a try at the vedder yet, where is the best place to start fishing this early?