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[canoeboy]

I recently introduced a friend to fishing and have taken him out for coho on the Vedder. But today he called me, apparently he had taken a trip to the stave river to try his hand at floating jigs for chum.  He called me because he was watching a group of 15 people drag chum after chum up onto the beach slice them open take the roe and kick the fish back in. He was utterly appalled apparently the group of people did this about 40 times in the time span that he was there 5:30 till roughly 7. Not being aware that it wasn't legal he said nothing but eventually called me to ask. I told him to call mission rcmp and to call DFO. I implore everyone when you see this kind of senseless act call immediately. It may be "chum" but it's still a natural resource. That could very much eventually be going the ways of the until recently pinks..

[zap brannigan]

disgusting.

[bigblockfox]

make sure you tell him to report what hes sees to rapp

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/environment/natural-resource-stewardship/natural-resource-law-enforcement/conservation-officer-service/cos-rapp

[canoe man]

so yes return to my sons question is this legal
what is your limit of roe i thought it was only four skeens
that would equal two fish
but i cant find anything in the regs
if you can find it please post it
then we can call and bust there arses

but lets say you caught two does
keep them and the roe
i catch two does but dont want the roe lol
am i allowed to give it to you
or do i put it in the river it drifts down
and you pick it up

what are the rules on this

but people raping the bottom killing and then just keeping the roe
somehow that seems wrong to me

cnm

[DanL]

See page 9 of http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/docs/1719/fishing_synopsis_2017-19_provincial.pdf

Roe… you must not have more than 1 kg of
roe (fish eggs) in your possession for use
as bait unless the roe was obtained from a
commercial source that lawfully obtained
that roe, or you have in your possession
the freshly dressed fish from which the
roe in excess of 1 kg was taken. Carry a
receipt with you if you  purchased roe from
a commercial source

This is nothing but flat out poaching on a large scale. Completely indefensible

[canoe man]

ok thank you danl
that means we can bust them
you need the fish to prove where it came from

thanks cnm

[Knnn]

That is bloody sickening.  I'm a pretty timid person but that would prompt me to at least try and video the scene and discretely follow them back to their vehicles and record registrations.  Bastards.

Need to ban roe as a bait.

[cammer]

Need to band roe as bait.... hmmm? ,,another nimrod statement, well said Knnn,,,youll have plenty of support on that statement here. BTW roe also is a delicacy to Eastern euros

[Shinny]

Well this explains the male:female ratio on the Stave most years. Imagine what happens on the rivers that we don't notice...

Last fall I found two garbage bags on Burke mountain with about 20 rotting chum carcasses inside. Most likely all poached from the Coquitlam river...

[Every Day]

Need to band roe as bait.... hmmm? ,,another nimrod statement, well said Knnn,,,youll have plenty of support on that statement here. BTW roe also is a delicacy to Eastern euros

Island is bait ban. Why can't the mainland be as well? Most of the time I have seen "gut and chuck", it's been greedy fisherman trying to fill their freezer with bait. Rarely is it large scale like what has been described here. This could indeed be a delicacy food harvest, or they could be selling roe to someone for bait (It's something like 12 bucks a pound now which isn't bad $$$ for a morning of "work").

There has been a group of 10 Russian guys on the lower nanaimo doing the same thing for weeks now. Taking roe out of female chum by the bucket load. Very few places you can use roe here, so unless they are selling it to a source on the mainland, I'd imagine it's being sold as food. They've been called in multiple times, sometimes two or three times a day. Hopefully They've been caught in the last couple weeks I've been gone.

[bobby b]

Saw two half rotted and gutted Coho does lying on the rocks up near Alison.
Cant wrap my head around that one ...
The Stave scenario described is brutal. Disgusting

[DanL]

...could be selling roe to someone for bait (It's something like 12 bucks a pound now which isn't bad $$$ for a morning of "work").

Probably a few pounds of roe per fish. If the fine upstanding citizens the OP described really harvested 40 chum, that could easily be worth $1000+. Hopefully a crackdown comes down hard as that's just too profitable for some people not to engage in such behavior.

[Rieber]

You know I'm not a fan of wishing misfortune on anyone but one day it would sure be interesting to hear that poachers at the Stave are reporting vehicle vandalism in the form of several rotting carcasses being poured into their vehicles, aromatically changing their outlook on results of poaching.

I would certainly bet that the poachers would get the subtle hint.

Or a juicy carcass tucked up nicely around the engine or exhaust system will immediately signal to the poacher that he has been closely watched and should seriously stop doing what he's doing.

Again, both scenarios create some work on the teacher so a very simple and highly effective approach is to find the ripest and juiciest carcass you can find and then gently lay it across the bottom of the windshield so that all the aromatic splendor of a juicy decaying salmon drip into the air intake vents giving the poacher a long lasting memory of what it means to waste, steal and needlessly kill.

I don't encourage this highly effective action.

[cammer]

Bait ban?? Dude stick to your spinners and your girlfriend and keep your opinions on others choice of fishing to yourself

[kingpin]

Sounds like a group of caviar fisherman , not guys looking for bait . Hatchery rivers don't need bait bans