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[canoeboy]

Jesus is that really the going rate for Roe?? I havnt bought roe in years I just cure my own. Must have saved a crap ton of money....wonder where it all went 

[mcallagan]

Was up there today in my tin boat & outboard.
On the other side from the Western Gong Show.
I could see them though. Didn't see to many being bonked. maybe just not looking at the right times.
Only had one strike, something pretty big grabbed my jig and screamed down stream with it and just as I started getting some line back it spit the hook.

Saw the chopper come over and go up and down the river a few times maybe 100 feet off the deck.
I was wondering about it as it did not have any registration numbers on it anywhere.

[canoeboy]

Well good to see that they may be taking it seriously. I put them on speed dial so you can bet your freshly cured roe I'll be using it.

[Hoop71]

Wait, there are that many Chum in the Stave already??? It's only Oct 6.  Stave is a gong show though, flossers galore so this does not surprise me in the least....unfortunately.

[bigblockfox]

Ralph I was as the stave about a week ago and hit 4 smolts on a 1/2 croc fishing for coho. The croc was just a bit smaller than the smolts. I think as long as people are fishing by catch will be inevitably.

[Knnn]

Need to band roe as bait.... hmmm? ,,another nimrod statement, well said Knnn,,,youll have plenty of support on that statement here. BTW roe also is a delicacy to Eastern euros

I agree, roe is a delicacy in many countries throughout the world, and it may be that the Stave incident was to supply this market.  However, I have seen a lot of gut and chuck, fish referred to as roe wagons, preferential/exclusive retention of females etc.  So, if banning the use of roe could help in anyway to preserve fish stocks (I admit I have no proof it would) and/or minimize ill treatment, I would be more than happy with a bait ban.  It's not as if we are short of different methods of fishing, and salmon are not difficult to catch on Vancouver Island or up the Squamish system, without bait. 

[canoeboy]

I agree, roe is a delicacy in many countries throughout the world, and it may be that the Stave incident was to supply this market.  However, I have seen a lot of gut and chuck, fish referred to as roe wagons, preferential/exclusive retention of females etc.  So, if banning the use of roe could help in anyway to preserve fish stocks (I admit I have no proof it would) and/or minimize ill treatment, I would be more than happy with a bait ban.  It's not as if we are short of different methods of fishing, and salmon are not difficult to catch on Vancouver Island or up the Squamish system, without bait. 

I'd have to agree if it meant stopping this behavior I would agree with a bait ban. I prefer to spin fish anyways. Might also help lose a lot of the garbage left behind by such people.

[RalphH]

Ralph I was as the stave about a week ago and hit 4 smolts on a 1/2 croc fishing for coho. The croc was just a bit smaller than the smolts. I think as long as people are fishing by catch will be inevitably.

...and your point is?
 
Mortality rates on small trout caught & released on bait is typically well over 40% & over 60%. With artificials it's well under 10%. A number of small rivers & streams with summertime populations of such fished should IMO either be closed through to October or have a bait ban in place until late fall early winter. Most of those streams don't offer much of a sport fishery during those periods anyway yet they receive considerable fishing pressure anyway.

[Blackrt03]

I'd have to agree if it meant stopping this behavior I would agree with a bait ban. I prefer to spin fish anyways. Might also help lose a lot of the garbage left behind by such people.

X2

[bigblockfox]

My point is it's inevitable as long as people are fishing. That's all.

[RalphH]

My point is it's inevitable as long as people are fishing. That's all.

ok but it's not at all related to why I think more extensive bait bans or fishing closures could provide benefits for local anglers.

[cammer]

Gutting fish for roe is illegal, as are many other nefarious activities, barbed hook, snagged fish kept, over limit etc etc, so to save the stocks why don't we just ban fishing everywhere, !! Same thinking to banning roe in my opinion, hooking a Fish is inherently bad for all fish, you are going to do damage so get over the righteous catch n release all holly attitude that your better than others who keep and eat fish

[Ry the fly guy]

why don't we just ban fishing everywhere, !! Same thinking to banning roe

This is ridicules, If you cant catch fish without roe then you might as well not fish, I live on the island, 99% of our rivers are bait ban and yet people still fish and catch fish, and there is way less riff-raff around becuase it actually takes skill to catch a fish. How could banning bait be even close to the same thing as banning all fishing? Hatcherys exist to create more oppurtunitys for sport fishermen, they are not your personal fish farm, go to superstore if all your after if fish.

[cammer]

A fly guy says ban bait,   we'll I'll take that for what it's worth, useless rhetoric. If I want fish I can go to superstore hey?? So your telling me you support farming of fish, well done as that's where superstore gets most of their fish. That is brilliant to tell fishermen here they can stop retaining salmon to serve your pretentious needs. That's brilliant posting on a site full of fishermen who retain fish..bait fish and who post pics of retaining fish

[RalphH]

Gutting fish for roe is illegal, as are many other nefarious activities, barbed hook, snagged fish kept, over limit etc etc, so to save the stocks why don't we just ban fishing everywhere, !! Same thinking to banning roe in my opinion, hooking a Fish is inherently bad for all fish, you are going to do damage so get over the righteous catch n release all holly attitude that your better than others who keep and eat fish

 I like to eat fish & frequently kill fish where allowed by law so have no 'holy attitude'. I am very specifically referring to small streams at times when anglers such as you tend not to fish there and when sport fish in sizes large enough to be worth catching are mostly absent.

Since the topic came up I added my specific input. I don't see this in ad hominum terms where one has to insult another persons attitudes or personality.