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bigfishy

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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #735 on: September 10, 2017, 08:22:43 PM »

Drove by richmond today along dyke rd. Lots of fish rolling. Wish they would open the fraser even for just catch and release.😫
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #736 on: September 10, 2017, 08:38:35 PM »

Caught one and lost a couple at sandheads today they are still around
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #737 on: September 10, 2017, 08:57:56 PM »

LET THE SHOW BEGIN ;D ;D ;D
Should see flashlights on the banks right now!  ;D
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #738 on: September 10, 2017, 10:20:57 PM »

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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #739 on: September 10, 2017, 10:25:40 PM »

Scouted the Canal/Pillings/Wilson yesterday. Gauntlet of guys underneath the KWB bridge. Everyone was having a good time but no fish caught. I went down stream and worked my way back up with my spey rod. Some socks surfacing and nothing else. 

Anyway lots and lots of guys out. Hardly any action to be seen.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #740 on: September 10, 2017, 10:59:22 PM »

. I don't think pinks are as hardy as some other species.Always bothers me to hear of 'ethical' anglers who c&r some big number, like 70.

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I find I'm agreeing with you more and more on a variety of issues. I must have finally become an old fart.  :o
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #741 on: September 11, 2017, 07:09:26 AM »

Welcome to the club Milo!
I don't believe in reincarnation but if I did I would not want to come back as a Vedder River pink salmon ... Ralph is correct, carnage is the right word.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #742 on: September 11, 2017, 07:51:16 AM »

Do the pinks go into the hatchery?  I was there yesterday and there were 12 red springs 1 coho but didn't see any pinks.  I did see quite a few pinks in the Lower.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #743 on: September 11, 2017, 09:17:58 AM »

4 guide boats in the Fraser at the Canal mouth this AM. 4 to 5 people per boat and almost everyone is nailing Pinks on all boats. Do the guides know something I don't. Seems strange to have them in the Fraser ( technically ) targeting salmon. Did they open it or something?
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #744 on: September 11, 2017, 09:21:09 AM »

3 days in a row of 129+ fish at the Whonnock gillnet(29D)

2017 YTD catch has already surpassed total 2015 whonnock numbers, with about 16 days left of test fishing this year. I don't understand it.

http://www.psc.org/publications/fraser-panel-in-season-information/test-fishing-results/#114-test-fishing-archive
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #745 on: September 11, 2017, 09:26:10 AM »

4 guide boats in the Fraser at the Canal mouth this AM. 4 to 5 people per boat and almost everyone is nailing Pinks on all boats. Do the guides know something I don't. Seems strange to have them in the Fraser ( technically ) targeting salmon. Did they open it or something?
Unless they are upriver beyond the triangle markers in the Vedder (a few hundred yards) they are still in the Fraser.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #746 on: September 11, 2017, 09:29:45 AM »

I'd post a picture but I can't upload in this area. Maybe later I will. I'm just blown away by that. Something is wrong here. Very jealous
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #747 on: September 11, 2017, 12:10:02 PM »

With this joke of a salmon season I've just sent dfo an email asking for a refund on my salmon tags!

Perhaps next time we should all wait for them to open the river before buying tags. Massive drop in license revenues will send a strong message.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #748 on: September 11, 2017, 01:35:57 PM »

The Mission Sonar fence estimate as of Sept 7th is about 1.8 million pinks have swum past. Since Aug 31st over 100,000 pinks have swum by daily - (compare that to the Whonnock test #s); http://www.psc.org/FRPWeb/Escapement/Pink_Escapement.pdf

That is a lot of fish. Close to 1 million pinks in a week. I don't there is any other run of salmon in the river that can put so many individual fish in the river within one week and consider it's a week return.

Question is does that add up to significantly more than the 3.7 million estimate? My guess the run is more than half way competed.

To piggy back on this thought, Just out of curiosity I looked at previous Whonnock test fishery results to try and guesstimate when the mid-way point of previous runs were by adding up the total season's catch from previous runs and determining on what date the 50% percentile fish was counted. The data is somewhat flawed as it runs from mid-August to late September so early arrivers and stragglers are not counted, however making the huge assumption that ‘most’ of the runs are accounted for, we get the following dates for the midway points:

2007 7-Sep
2009 8-Sep
2011 13-Sep
2013 12-Sep
2015 4 Sep

The ‘average date’ if that term is even valid here, would be somewhere around Sept-9 so the latest hydroacoustic numbers from Sept-7 are quite possibly right around or just prior to the midway point.

Looking at it another way, by Sept-7 the previous 5 runs had seen an average of 43% of the total test fishery catch (though there is a high of 65% in 2015 to a low of 20% in 2011), so very roughly guessing that the latest hydroacoustic numbers account for ~40-50% of this year’s run would put it at ~3.6M - 4.5M.

If the hydroacoustic method is at all accurate then the DFO estimate may actually not be all that far off when all is said and done.

Hydroacoustic counting is relatively newer but unfortunately I cant find any data for previous years so I have nothing to compare with. 2015 hydroacoustic  numbers would be very interesting as the test fishery was significantly lower than this years…

I’ll make the compiled data available to anyone who wants to play around with it themselves.
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Re: Pink Run 2017
« Reply #749 on: September 11, 2017, 01:50:44 PM »

No More Pink Retention at the Mouth of Fraser, Fraser area and Nanaimo areas.

http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=200734&ID=all
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