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quill

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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2011, 07:08:54 AM »

No, the rainbows are ripe fish. Well above Kamloops Lake. Maybe remnants of Columbia winter-runs?? 
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2011, 09:40:06 PM »

We won't know exactly what is going on with the fish unless a scientific study is done by legitimate biologists...in terms of the rainbows i would like to know too!
I don't get this conspiracy theory about fudging fish counts and abundance data. Aren't steelhead counts and stock status reports done by professional fish biologists, RPBios, that answer to their professional society like other professionals? Politicians and senior bureaucarts lie and may twist the information to their own greater designs but fish biologists are professionals and specialists with no motive to report anything other than what they know. ::)
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 07:05:26 AM »

You're right. Provincial fisheries biologists work with the best science available in developing their recommendations to fisheries managers.

There's a segment of the population in the north who have for years disputed the population estimates for the Skeena in an effort to reinstitute a steelhead kill fishery. Not surprising that they would also question the escapement estimates for the T. The good news is that very few people actually listen. 
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2011, 08:03:08 PM »

--even though fishing was good we were raising concerns early 70's about Deadman Creek run and other smaller tribs which all had steelhead.
--no one seemed to care about all these smaller runs (except the rec fishers)

--it seems to me the major management strategy is to downgrade the fishery until recreational fishing is shut down then the problem goes away.
--this strategy has worked very well for okanagan lk kokanee fishery... no fishermen no one complaining about the plan which does not seem to include the quality of the fishery.


yea , I have feeling you're right . they hope it will just eff of and die.
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2011, 08:08:12 PM »

No, the rainbows are ripe fish. Well above Kamloops Lake. Maybe remnants of Columbia winter-runs?? 

Could be! I think that there is a connection between the Columbia and Idaho strains.
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finding your limits is fun, it can also be VERY painful.

If you care about Canada's future, get involved by holding your MLA's & MP's accountable!! don't just be sheep!!

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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2011, 07:36:58 AM »


   Quote from: fishunter on Today at 12:08:44 AM
what a great video chris! love the stuff you post. on an unrelated note, It would be interesting what the guy who spoke about spences bridge would say about the opening right nnow on the thompson.

I was planning to go up to the Thompson today for a few days and film Steve on what you asked but a cold has kept me grounded, besides it will be cold and windy up there which will only make me sicker. :-\

I have talked to Steve by e mail and he says the fishing is------ ;D ;D. I think there is more fish showing up than than some are saying. Sorry this may upset some but so be it, as I have said many times, life is too short to worry about things like this as it should be a minor concern as we travel through life.

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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2011, 03:54:14 PM »

   Quote from: fishunter on Today at 12:08:44 AM
what a great video chris! love the stuff you post. on an unrelated note, It would be interesting what the guy who spoke about spences bridge would say about the opening right nnow on the thompson.

I was planning to go up to the Thompson today for a few days and film Steve on what you asked but a cold has kept me grounded, besides it will be cold and windy up there which will only make me sicker. :-\

I have talked to Steve by e mail and he says the fishing is------ ;D ;D. I think there is more fish showing up than than some are saying. Sorry this may upset some but so be it, as I have said many times, life is too short to worry about things like this as it should be a minor concern as we travel through life.

hmm...well I guess he is happy there are people coming through his coffee shop as the T is open t say the least...I wonder if he agrees with the opening from a moral POV though
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2011, 04:50:07 PM »

hmm...well I guess he is happy there are people coming through his coffee shop as the T is open t say the least...I wonder if he agrees with the opening from a moral POV though
Nothing wrong with that and the Packing House is a great spot to stop for a coffee or some great food. ;D ;D l believe there is more benefits to having it open for the 2 months than having it closed. Those points have been made before, that I agree with, while others give reasons why they think it should be kept closed, I guess it is up to each person to decide.

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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »

Nothing wrong with that and the Packing House is a great spot to stop for a coffee or some great food. ;D ;D l believe there is more benefits to having it open for the 2 months than having it closed. Those points have been made before, that I agree with, while others give reasons why they think it should be kept closed, I guess it is up to each person to decide.

I saw him in there a couple days ago....didn't look too bothered by the opening :D
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2011, 05:28:45 AM »

   Quote from: fishunter on Today at 12:08:44 AM
what a great video chris! love the stuff you post. on an unrelated note, It would be interesting what the guy who spoke about spences bridge would say about the opening right nnow on the thompson.

I was planning to go up to the Thompson today for a few days and film Steve on what you asked but a cold has kept me grounded, besides it will be cold and windy up there which will only make me sicker. :-\

I have talked to Steve by e mail and he says the fishing is------ ;D ;D. I think there is more fish showing up than than some are saying. Sorry this may upset some but so be it, as I have said many times, life is too short to worry about things like this as it should be a minor concern as we travel through life.
I read on another site,that the estimated projected run is at 600 fish. Dreadfully low numbers and yet the so called Sports fsherman are flocking to the T to pin cushion these last few remaining fish.Im deeply concerned we are seeing the end of this once great run.I cannot for the life of me understand what justification there is to opening this fishery when it should remained closed.
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Re: Thompson River Steelhead
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2011, 05:41:45 PM »

Just a reminder that we are 2 weeks away from a fantastic event for the benefit of the Thompson River and one of its major steelhead spawning tributaries, Spius Creek... the Pub Night Fundraiser is Wednesday, November 23rd, at The Bourbon in Vancouver on the edge of Gastown.

There will be auction items, door prizes, and raffles which will include:

- guided trips for salmon, sturgeon, steelhead, and trout with top anglers like Brian Chan, April Vokey, Jason Tonelli, and others
- rods, reels, and other gear
- Canucks tickets

This is going to be an awesome night, whether you are a Thompson angler or not, and all the money goes to a great cause.

We hope to see you there.



 

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