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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2015, 12:34:11 PM »

I don't understand why they close lower Fraser for pink. As all we know by-catching sockeye is super rare and hard in the lower Fraser.

I'm sure most will agree with you, and yet still no response to this. I guess logic and regs don't usually go hand in hand
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2015, 12:35:44 PM »

I'm sure most will agree with you, and yet still no response to this. I guess logic and regs don't usually go hand in hand

Response from who? DFO? If you have a question for DFO and would like a response, best to email or phone them as they do not answer questions in our discussion forum. The contact information of the resource manager is always available at the end of each fishery notice.

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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2015, 12:45:04 PM »

Response from who? DFO? If you have a question for DFO and would like a response, best to email or phone them as they do not answer questions in our discussion forum. The contact information of the resource manager is always available at the end of each fishery notice.

Lol derp... Rod i'm referring to my attempts to get an answer from DFO. Seems like nobody is answering phone calls or replying to emails at this time, or maybe on this subject.
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2015, 02:07:44 PM »

i would say the Jimmy Pattison group has more pull than the sport fishing groups, it looks like they are going to get an opening soon

Fishery Notice
Category(s): COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net
Subject: FN0927-COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net - Area E - Area 29 - Modified Net (shallow seine) Demonstration Fishery

As outlined in the 2015/2016 Southern BC Salmon Integrated Fisheries Management
Plan, the Area E Harvest Committee has proposed and organized a limited
opportunity demonstration fishery to explore the feasibility of accessing
Fraser pink salmon with an alternative small mesh shallow seine gear type.

This demonstration is designed to explore shallow seine selective fishing gear
and techniques, including mesh size restrictions, brailing, sorting, and short
set times to minimize mortality of any potential by-catch species.  The target
species is pink salmon and all other species encountered must be released.
Information from this demonstration fishery, including by-catch impacts, will
be monitored, assessed, and evaluated on an on-going basis throughout the pink
salmon migration. 

Only designated fishing vessels will be authorized to fish in the demonstration
fishery. Participants of this demonstration fishery will be required to cover
the costs of a comprehensive monitoring program that includes independent at-
sea observers and mandatory dockside catch validation.  Additional details
including gear configuration, open times, fishing area, and other terms and
conditions will be provided to participants. 

This demonstration fishery will occur when pink salmon stocks are abundant in
the local area and may be curtailed or may not proceed subject to conservation
constraints, including concerns for by-catch of other species.  Harvest plans
will be consistent with objectives to protect stocks of concern and allocation
priorities.  Any opening(s) will be of limited duration and harvester
compliance with requirements for the fishery will be a factor in determining
whether there will be further openings.

Arrangements to participate in this fishery must be co-ordinated with the Area
E Harvest Committee and the list of participants will be finalized by Friday,
August 28, 2015. For further information, please contact Area E Harvest
Committee advisors Darrel McEachern at grandpadarrel@hotmail.com and Stuart
McDonald at saltystewart@gmail.com


FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Barbara Mueller,
Resource Manager
DFO Lower Fraser Area
Tel: (604)666-2370
Email: barbara.mueller@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0927
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 02:13:27 PM »

Commercial fishing is higher in the pecking order than recreational fishing so that's not a big surprise.
I'm certainly in favour of more selective harvest methods. I hope they publish the results.
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 04:47:00 PM »

I hope DFO be more selective first. Obviously, recreational fishing is first one got by-catching.  :'( :'(
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 05:08:05 PM »

Ok i've tried reading it about six times and i still cant figure out what that last post means can someone help out here ???
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 05:09:42 PM »

As Rodney said "your representatives at the SFAC have been busy advocating for an opening with DFO".
Please stand together and make recreational out of the lowest pecking order.
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2015, 05:23:31 PM »

So what your saying is make the recs a bigger priority than the commercial guys ?
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2015, 05:24:48 PM »

Commercial fishing is higher in the pecking order than recreational fishing so that's not a big surprise.
I'm certainly in favour of more selective harvest methods. I hope they publish the results.

IIRC commercial fishers officially get first priority for sockeye and pinks. Recreational get priority for Chinook and coho. Nobody wants chums.
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2015, 05:43:00 PM »

Doesnt the commercial fleet take a whole bunch of chum out of the fraser come october? Maybe for the roe ?
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2015, 05:49:49 PM »

So what your saying is make the recs a bigger priority than the commercial guys ?

Don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say make any bigger priority than the commercial guys. What I am trying say is to be fair to everyone.

DFO closed the lower Fraser because the chance of by-catching sockeye. They knew that it will happen in FN and commercial not Recreational.

They just simply close everything because they didn't want to open recreational without open FN and commercial.

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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2015, 08:02:45 PM »

well ,and the end of the day, lets be patient , rain coming
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2015, 04:38:17 AM »

well ,and the end of the day, lets be patient , rain coming


Raining does not cause migrating sockeye to multiply. Although I wish it did...
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Re: Lower fraser
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2015, 08:49:33 AM »

If its all about protecting the sockeye then none of the DFO and PSC decisions make any sense. They say they the run size is smaller than expected , water temps to high and blame all kinds of other problems and yet native fisheries are allowed to net the river  for Chinook food  opening sure its their right to fish however sockeye are caught and kept , The commercial fleet will get a opening for pinks soon and yes sockeye will be caught but dumped back over the side but how many become to stressed to continue the long journey up river, The USA commercial fleet gets an opening this weekend as well as USA natives  as per the PSC latest release this means more sockeye caught ,The PSC  and DFO test net daily and take thousands of fish over their test season  this is all good by the DFO and PSC.

 The sports fishers are not allowed to fish the lower tidal Fraser river for Pinks or Chinooks yet they are the least impact to the sockeye run of all the fishing groups that could fish the tidal Fraser river .Not to mention what is the financial impact to communities , businesses ,  tourism , etc , by not letting sport fishers fish . If it is truly about protecting the sockeye then the PSC and DFO had better take a long hard look at what they are doing to hurt the run and not just point the finger at the sport fishing group and close it for the one fishing group . None of this makes any sense to me but the DFO and PSC know best right?
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