Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge  (Read 7647 times)

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14765
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« on: January 20, 2006, 10:55:28 PM »

http://www.mapleridgenews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=46&cat=23&id=574338&more=

Mayor wants companies charged

By Phil Melnychuk
Staff Reporter
Jan 18 2006


Muddy water discharges into Millionaire Creek in Silver Valley at 130th Avenue.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada hasn’t decided if charges will follow its orders to control sedimentation into Maple Ridge streams, but the mayor wants an example made.
The district should show leadership “throw the bloody boots” at some of the companies, Gordy Robson said Monday.
“It always seems to be the same people. I think as representatives of 77,000 people, we have an obligation to say enough’s enough.”
Robson commented after Fisheries and Oceans Canada last week directed developers and construction companies to stop the flow of muddy storm runoff into streams, “without delay.”
The companies had until Tuesday to explain how they’ll do that.
Meanwhile, Maple Ridge council has asked for a report from staff on the topic.
“I would like to know why they’re not charged,” said Robson.
According to public works general manager Frank Quinn, only Fisheries and Oceans can lay charges, although the district has issued a stop-work order on one site. He couldn’t say if the district had issued previous stop-work orders.
Quinn noted there has been lots of rain the past few weeks, which adds to runoff into local creeks.
“But we know this is going to happen,” Robson said.
The past week’s rains have the district scrambling to control runoff and sedimentation that is flowing into local streams from construction sites.
Ross Davies with the Kanaka Education and Environmental Partnership Society, said he’s never before seen such conditions in Spencer Creek, a tributary of Kanaka Creek. Water from construction sites, gravel pits and settling ponds flows into Spencer Creek in the 10300-block area of Industrial Avenue in Albion.
“It’s the worst I’ve ever seen, this year.
“Silt at that level, could actually cause a fish kill.”
The creek winds its way through Albion Park, past Samuel Robertson Technical Secondary, then down to Albion flats.
Davies said KEEPS has decided recently it wants to focus more on monitoring sedimentation in streams and will get some help from students at the school. Under KEEPS’s Fish Reaching Youth program, Grade 8 students will help with weekly checks for turbidity, temperature, oxygen and pH levels.
He said while KEEPS “can rant and rave” about protecting streams, “When there’s a bunch of kids that get out, that makes a difference.”
Spencer Creek normally has a few juvenile coho who’ve managed to slip past the pump station where it empties into Kanaka Creek near Lougheed Highway.
A better, although costlier, pump station would allow salmon to swim up stream, and permit restoration of a salmon run.
Still, Spencer Creek is a good aquatic food source and should be a productive trout stream. Cutthroat trout will spawn next month and in two or three months, there should be juvenile fry in the stream.
Even if the fish are able to spawn, the course gravel could be cemented over by sediment and the eggs buried or suffocated, Davies said. Sediment could choke out vegetation and kill the aquatic insect population.
Davies said during heavy rains an undisturbed stream may have a slight colour to it, but it will still remain clear.
He contrasted the brown of Spencer Creek to Hennipen Creek, which is undisturbed and, while it’s running high, it’s still possible to see the creek bottom.
“Brown, dirty water in a creek is not a normal thing.”
Fisheries and Oceans Canada on Friday issued one further “inspector’s direction” requiring immediate measures to stop sedimentation. That was issued to a B.C. Ministry of Transportation gravel pit on Jackson Road, half a block from Industrial Avenue.
The ministry joins 685457 B.C. Ltd. [Norond Group], Damax Consultants and B and B Contracting Ltd. in receiving Fisheries’ directions for cleaning up runoff water from 10300 Industrial Ave.
In Silver Valley, in the 239th Street and 130th Avenue area, Omni Pacific, Aplin & Martin Consultants Ltd., Progressive Contracting Ltd., Atlantic Pacific Land Corp., D.K. Bowins and Associates Inc. and a number company received the same direction.
Under the Fisheries Act, the companies had until Tuesday to explain how they would meet Fisheries water quality criteria.
Fisheries and Oceans has also questioned District of Maple Ridge’s practices.
Fisheries biologist Bruce Clark asked in December why the district keeps approving subdivisions that don’t meet federal guidelines for storm water management.

Sam Tech students monitor creek

Ross Davies may have to adjust his testing kit in order to get a reading of sediment levels in muddy Spencer Creek.
After seeing the creek this week, which is still running the colour of coffee, he estimates readings of total suspended solids of 10,000 and 20,000 milligrams of sediment per litre water above background levels.
His current sampling system, designed for lower levels, may not be able to register a reading.
The District of Maple Ridge’s limit is 75 milligrams of sediment per litre of water during rainy days, while Fisheries and Oceans Canada has a 25 mg limit.
Davies, with the Kanaka Education and Environmental Partnership Society, will be helping Grade 8 science students from Samuel Robertson Technical Secondary do such a test every week under KEEPS’s Fish Reaching Students program.
Every Wednesday, the students will be walking to the stream across from the school on 104th Avenue in Albion Park and testing for sediment, temperature, oxygen and pH levels.
“If you guys want to know where most of this is coming from, just look up the hill,” Davies told students Tuesday.
Grade 8 student Michelle Tshimanga used to live in Burnaby and Coquitlam and hasn’t seen streams in the condition that Spencer Creek was in Tuesday.
“I’ve moved a lot and have seen a lot of creeks and never one like this.”
But there’s so much building going on in Maple Ridge it can be expected to happen, the students said.
A way of clearing the creek should be found if people want the salmon to come back, Tshimanga added.
Conor Kelsey and Evan Seminerio will also be helping out with the stream monitoring.
“It just doesn’t look good,” Kelsey said.

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14765
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006, 10:59:03 PM »

‘Clean up dirty water’

By Phil Melnychuk
Staff Reporter
By Phil Melnychuk
Staff Report
Jan 14 2006


(Above) Dave Smith of KEEPS looks at the brown water in Spencer Creek, north of Samuel Robertson Technical School; (below, left) a siltation pond off Industrial Avenue, below a housing development on Thornhill; (below, right) milky runoff pours into a drain.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada has told developers and construction companies in Maple Ridge to clean up their storm water and has given them seven days to do it.
Three directions have been given under the Fisheries Act to several companies.
Omni Pacific, Aplin & Martin Consultants Ltd. and Progressive Contracting Ltd. have been told to “implement appropriate measures without delay” so runoff from the site at 239th Street, north of 130A Avenue, meets Fisheries and Oceans criteria for total suspended solids and turbidity.
The orders apply to a construction site in Silver Valley within the Millionaire Creek system.
Fisheries and Oceans biologist Bruce Clark said fish soon will be hatching and won’t be able to access food if it is covered by sediment, even temporarily.
“It’s going to be a potentially significant impact on juvenile fish associated with those waterways,” he said.
There is a “potentially serious and imminent danger” of “deleterious substances” running into fish-bearing streams, he said, paraphrasing the order.
A similar direction has been issued for another work site, also in Silver Valley, on 239B Street, north of 132nd Avenue. That area also is within the Millionaire Creek system, which drains into the South Alouette River.
The companies directed in that order are Atlantic Pacific Land Corp., D.K. Bowins and Associates Inc., Progressive Contracting L td. and a numbered company.
In Albion at 10300 Industrial Ave., Damax Consultants Ltd., B and B Contracting Ltd. and two numbered companies, 685457 B.C. Ltd. and another one, have been given the same direction.
Runoff from that area, which includes gravel pits and new homes which sit atop a steep hill of a former gravel pit, drains into three large detention ponds that trap the water, settle the sediments and control the flow during heavy rains.
Water is discharged from there beneath Industrial Avenue to Spencer Creek, a tributary of Kanaka Creek.
Clark said Fisheries and Oceans issued the directions after considering sampling data from environmental consultants and doing its own limited sampling, as well as from information from the public. Fisheries and Oceans officers have visited Maple Ridge four or five times since the fall.
Under the Fisheries Act, an “inspector’s direction” is given to clarify Fisheries’ expectations, he said.
“They are fairly routine instruments that the department uses, but how often they’re used … there could be a huge range there.”
Clark said failure to comply with an inspector’s direction is itself a violation of the Fisheries Act, but nothing has been decided in the above cases.
“We’ll consider what steps we have to take at that time.”
The companies have a week to report how they’re complying.
The directions focus on potential discharges of sediment into the creeks, but the department is also concerned with water from construction sites being discharged directly into streams, even though the guidelines don’t prohibit that. Often, runoff from construction sites can take a more circuitous route through settling ponds and ditches before entering a stream.
Fisheries’ is concerned with the mud that is produced when ground is excavated during construction, but the department also is worried about runoff from roads and roofs when construction is complete.
The guidelines the department follows when an area is under construction requires that total suspended solids be no more than 25 milligrams per litre of water above the levels that preceded construction.
Maple Ridge, however, allows levels to be 75 milligrams per litre on rainy days, something Clark challenges.
“If 25 [mg of solids per litre] is a problem for fish, why would 75 mg be acceptable?”
Dave Smith with Kanaka Education and Environmental Partnership Society is happy Fisheries and Oceans is doing something.
“We [the district] use creeks and streams for our stormwater management,” Smith said.
Spencer, Maggy and Thornvale creeks, all tributaries to Kanaka Creek, are all showing muddy runoff from construction, Smith added.
On Wednesday, coffee-coloured water poured into the headwaters of Spencer Creek on Industrial Avenue. Even on the north side of 104th Avenue and Sam Robertson Technical school, the creek ran a thick brown.
Smith said all groups in Maple Ridge are going to have to come up with a better way and use methods and technology that are used elsewhere.
Developer blames builder for muddy water
Gary Lycan with Atlantic Pacific Land Corp. says Fisheries and Oceans is picking the wrong target.
His development company and a numbered company prepared the upper portion of the Silver Valley area along 239th Street that will accommodate 55 homes. Landscaping and seeding were all completed in the summer and there’s no mud flowing from those sites, he said.
“Our problem is with the builders … once we sell the lots we have absolutely no control,” Lycan said.
“DFO should find the source of the problem, then act accordingly.”
During construction when basements are being dug and materials hauled in and out, mud and clay can get on to the roads then wash into the storm drains and creeks.
A simple measure such as building a pad covered with drain rock at each lot for unloading materials can keep the dirt from getting in the water, or, moving a muddy grader up a road by truck rather than driving it up, could help.
Lycan said he tries to talk to builders, but the response he gets is varied.
“Some are good. Some are in between. Some are bloody rotten.”
While he can’t do anything about the builders, “I’m fully prepared to take responsibility for the eight lots that I own.”
The District of Maple Ridge can require such measures in its building permits, he said.
Lycan said the water detention ponds on each new subdivision are meant mainly to control the flow, so water is released gradually into the storm sewers and creeks.
While some sediment or sand falls out while the water is standing in the ponds, there’s no way of removing the clay that turns water the colour of chocolate milk.
“The only way you can do that is to keep the dirty water from being created.”
Lycan said Fisheries and Oceans’ guidelines, which call for ground filtration systems so storm water doesn’t empty into creeks and storm sewers, don’t work in the winter when large areas are cleared and the ground is saturated.
But Fisheries and Oceans Canada biologist Bruce Clark points out there are no sedimentation problems when the ground isn’t disturbed.
Geoff Clayton with the Alouette River Management Society agrees the district should increase its enforcement.
Under the district’s storm water bylaw, it can issue a stop-work order if mud is flowing into the streams.
He asked if the district has issued any stop-work orders and if the district is keeping any of the performance bonds posted by companies before development starts.
However, according to a district spokesman, a stop-work has been issued to one builder in Silver Valley.
Heavy machinery work has also stopped while district staff scramble to respond to this week’s heavy rains.
On the other hand, developers also are responsible, Clayton said.
“You cannot open a land form greater than you can manage and they clearly did that,” he said of Omni Pacific’s project.
“You cannot shift the ball on to the district and [say] tell us what to do now – duh?”
Fisheries and Oceans Canada told the District of Maple Ridge last August that Fisheries guidelines weren’t being followed in the Omni Pacific subdivision in Silver Valley.
But Clayton agrees, once the property is with the builders, “it’s clearly beyond the developer’s control.”
He said around the end of January, coho and chum salmon eggs will start to hatch in the gravel. If that gravel is covered by fine silt, “this has the capacity to suffocate the eggs by sealing off the oxygen.”
He wondered, however, about the timing of Fisheries’ actions.
“Do you think it’s driven by the [federal] election?
“Do you think we have a prime minister who’s getting a little desperate?”
Damax Consultants David Laird said, “we’re doing everything we can to solve the problem.”
Omni Pacific didn’t return phone calls.

Fish Assassin

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10807
Re: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 11:15:19 PM »

If you or I did the same thing DFO will be filing charges pronto. However if you're a developer you have until Tuesday to explain how you plan to clean up the situation.  ::)
Logged

searun17

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 589
Re: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 11:48:36 PM »

I say slap as hard as you can and as often as you can this kind of thing has been going on in the coquitlam river for years,i know the industries have had to pay fines for it but it is a small sum and they probably consider it just a  business expense,this makes me sick ,no wonder some of our fish stocks are so depleted.
Logged
Our kids are the future of our sport,take them fishing,teach them well and the rewards will be many.

grandpa

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 32
  • I'm a llama!
Re: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2006, 05:58:37 PM »

I noticed that Mr. Clark from DFO seems to be saying that only the District is responsible for the approval and subsequent mess . Unless things have changed a lot the DFO has to approve any projects that might have a detrimental effect on Fisheries Waters and they have the right to issue restrictions , some of the more common are properly installed filter cloth , a series straw bales staked in all ditches , no disturbance of the natural vegetation within anywher from 10 feet to 25 or more meters from any watercourse etc . They (DFO ) have a lot of clout if they want to use it . Also anyone with authority under The Fisheries Act can order worked stopped until such times as conditions are corrected .
Logged

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14765
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Mayor wants companies charged for muddy water discharge
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2006, 03:36:19 PM »

http://mapleridgenews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=46&cat=23&id=590975&more=

Stream cleanup backed

Feb 15 2006

Maple Ridge district staff have the power to curb stream polluters, if they’re given the direction to do so.
Monday, staff received that direction from council.
Prior to an imminent staff report on erosion and sediment control the district’s new environmental planner Rodney Stott laid out the options for Maple Ridge.
“We can take immediate action right now,” he said.
While the district currently has the power to clamp down on developers who allow muddy water to flow into fish-bearing streams, the district also can make things tougher by making some changes to bylaws, he added.
“All of these things I see going forward in a short period of time.”
That would require council’s support, which he received at Monday’s workshop. “I think we all feel the same way about this,” said Mayor Gord Robson.
Robson added he was tired of getting photos of dirty water flowing into streams.
District administrator Jim Rule said a report on erosion and sediment control will be presented to council next week.
Council heard part of the reason sediment flows have become an issue is because of the heavy rains this season and the amount of building going on.
Earlier this year, a dozen developers and construction firms were ordered by Fisheries and Oceans Canada to stop silt from construction activities, running into local streams.