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RalphH

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Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« on: August 10, 2024, 08:28:38 AM »
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2024, 12:47:46 PM »
Good they’ve suffered enough, to bad it’s not gonna stop bait hungry steelheaders from slitting and tossing them.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2024, 02:12:25 PM »
Taking shots a steelheaders us funny because it has been priven that the commercial fishing for Chum is a leading cause of Steelhead decline. What a wild system we live in.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2024, 04:43:18 PM »
The DFO contract people who do fish counts  often open dead females to check if they have spawned successfully. That may account for many or most of the slitted does reported. If it is done by anglers I doubt it is only 'steelheaders' who do this. Roe is used for salmon and sturgeon as well.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2024, 05:23:06 PM »
The DFO contract people who do fish counts normally cut the fish in half to show it has been counted not slit the bellies.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2024, 08:45:34 PM »
Quote from: fisherforever on August 10, 2024, 05:23:06 PM
The DFO contract people who do fish counts normally cut the fish in half to show it has been counted not slit the bellies.

I actually talked to a DFO contract employee who was slitting the belly on a dead doe about it. I even mentioned that anglers on the Chilliwack thought a slit fish was an example of poaching roe but 'dumping' the doe. This was on the Harrison but he said all the contract people do this with dead does. They take stats on how many have successfully spawning or have no roe - indicative of spawning.  I have watched them many times when they do counts. They don't necessarily cut them in  half.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2024, 09:02:25 PM »
What ever SalNam
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2024, 07:50:10 AM »
« Last Edit: August 11, 2024, 07:54:47 AM by RalphH »
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2024, 11:55:02 AM »
You're both right. Whether the fish are cut in half depends on many variables; number of predators, potential high water events, size of river/stream, degree of accuracy required, etc.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2024, 12:48:00 PM »
Thanks Dave. As I mentioned the slit I saw cut had nothing to do with counting the fish. It was to check if there was still roe in the fish... had it spawned or not. In that instance the person also collected the otoliths, put them in a numbered specimen bag and recorded it in a logbook.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2024, 06:34:18 PM »
Quote from: fisherforever on August 10, 2024, 09:02:25 PM
What ever SalNam

What does this even mean? The only Google results are about Sierra Leone expats living in Manitoba.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2024, 09:09:33 AM »
Looking at the test fishery for chums in Area 12, it looks like an improvement over the last couple of years.  There may be a Fraser opening which will mean more coho's will be netted.  We'll also be busy again unhooking chums that we don't want to keep.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2024, 10:25:43 AM »
Alaska had better chum returns this year as well,  interestingly it seems some areas are also reporting better steelhead returns as well.

still early in lots of areas so will see,
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2024, 10:50:32 AM »
Chum closure. A mostly closed Chilliwack river and silty water conditions for the parts that will be open. Sounds like a bust of a season.  Sure there are other hatchery coho rivers but man o man will they ever be busy!
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2024, 12:50:54 PM »
Quote from: Wiseguy on August 27, 2024, 10:50:32 AM
Chum closure. A mostly closed Chilliwack river and silty water conditions for the parts that will be open. Sounds like a bust of a season.  Sure there are other hatchery coho rivers but man o man will they ever be busy!

People wont fish them after striking out, there is a reason everyone goes to chilliwack. Even once you learn the other flows, a lot of who are dependant on rain events for moving fish they are far from constant. They are not for the meat fishermen.

I'm sure people will still find plenty of access to vedder 
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