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halcyonguitars

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What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:06:19 AM »

If the front of your line floats anyway, why extend it 10'? They're usually super visible so it's not like it adds any stealth, so what's it's job?
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2017, 12:27:18 PM »

Likely to help anchor your cast, as generally you have a sink tip with extra on to do that for you.  Adding the floating mow provides length without changing the casting stroke too much.

I think
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 12:55:15 PM »

What are you putting it in front of?

Skagit heads are designed to have an added tip of some sort though they are best suited to sink tips and sinking big flies quickly.

The floating mow tips add length and a taper at the front of a skagit head allowing a proper presentation presentation.

With longer Spey rods, a traditional Spey line may be a better choice for floating line presentations.
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 02:49:18 PM »

I'm not sure what I'm putting in front of it, probably various things at various times.

I have a rio switchchucker on a switch rod, so shorter than a full Spey rod. The shooting head is only 25' long. I'm not sure if the qualifies as a skagit line.

Having the extra length as an anchor makes sense....
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 05:06:11 PM »

The main reason would be to provide a better taper. That line has a steep short taper so would benefit from a MOW tip.

But you try looping a few feet of heavy monofilament butt material - perhaps 35 or 40lb then loop your standard leader to that.
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 06:58:13 PM »

So flyline, 3-4' 40lb butt, 10' MOW, then 9-12' leader?
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 09:25:54 PM »

Fly line,  mow tip, butt section, leader
From what ive read, the idea behind a mow tip is it's the same grain weight for each tip,  (roughly) and same length, keeping casting consistent no matter the tip.
12 ft tip an exception
Havent tried it yet, but aparently the floating mow is good for big dries, and poppers
Switch chucker casts nicely, im still a noob but its quite forgiving
Chucker is always supposed to have a tip i believe as well
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2017, 09:28:55 PM »

So flyline, 3-4' 40lb butt, 10' MOW, then 9-12' leader?

No MOW. Just the butt and the leader= 3 feet of 40lb butt -12 foot leader - fly.

Reason I suggest this is before poly leaders Scandi lines were typically used with 14+ feet of mono-filament leader with a 40lb butt to help anchor the cast. I' use this myself with my short scandi on my #6 switch - works great though I tie my own. Can't hurt to try.
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2017, 09:55:42 PM »

Ahh gotcha, had me confused, doesnt take much lol
I may give that a shot as well
Always up to try new things
Thanks ralph
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2017, 09:57:15 PM »

Shifter, that makes a lot of sense.

I can see how the MOW could be considered an integral part of the standard line that simply gets switched out depending on how deep you would want to fish. Might explain why some times casting is harder than others too when I take the sink tip on and off. I've always put it down to the weight of me fly.

Ralph, do you simply choose heavier flies if you have no MOW float or MOW sink?

I think I need to learn about matching fly weight and sink rates...
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Re: What's the point of a 10' floating MOW?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 08:24:24 AM »

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Ralph, do you simply choose heavier flies if you have no MOW float or MOW sink?

No.I always use a tip with my skagit lines and either a long leader as described above or a poly leader with my scandi line. I have a Cortland switch which is very similar to a Rio Switch chucker but haven't used it yet.
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