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chris gadsden

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Important Issue On The Fraser River
« on: January 15, 2015, 07:31:31 PM »

Please consider signing after you read. http://www.waterwealthproject.com/protect_the_fraser

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2015, 08:03:19 PM »

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 08:18:10 PM »

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2015, 08:56:32 PM »

A provincial report projects that by the end of the century under a moderate flood risk scenario "the 50-year return period event will have a magnitude similar to the 1948 flood". The same report states that a failure of the earthen Lajoie Dam and subsequent failure of the Terzaghi Dam below it would result in a flood "significantly larger than the estimated 10,000 year return period event". It would be only hours before those flood waters reached the hazardous waste site. In this seismically active province this is a risk that cannot be discounted. One need only consider the failure of the earthen Mount Polley dam, which needed no earthquake to trigger it.

Well, in reality a flood of this nature would turn many areas thought to be fairly safe into sources of toxic contamination even if the hazardous waste site is never built in the proposed location.  Personally, the magnitude of such a catastrophic event, and everything else that can accompany it, kind of overshadows the purpose of this protest.

Risks from this facility, if built, include emissions from normal operations, accidents on the site, accidents transporting materials to and from the site, and flooding from the river.

In my opinion, this site could be moved elsewhere and it would run into similar opposition. Although badly needed, toxic waste recycling doesn't attract willing neighbours I don't think. Not saying that the proposed site is the best option out there, but I don't necessarily believe this website when they say they support the facility, but not the location - especially when they start saying the things they are saying in the quote above. If the facility is built somewhere else away from the river will there not be these "emissions from normal operations" or is this only a concern in the proposed location? When you push something like this away from one place to another it will inevitably piss someone else off. I feel that there will just be another group protesting at another site these emissions from normal operations, possible accidents on site, and accidents transporting materials to and from the site. Probably get more support opening up a new Target store or a Steven Harper shrine.
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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 09:05:24 PM »

No one wants in their back yard, but this location in my opinion is worse due to the proximity to the river. Everything washes down river and in to the ocean. I know there will be others not happy if it was moved to their neighbourhood. But this is bigger than people not happy... It's about the sheer danger and damage that can come with this material washing down the Fraser River.

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2015, 08:05:48 AM »

Gosh SS, I thought we have you on board on this one. ::)

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2015, 08:43:11 AM »

SS is used to supporting toxic waste sites he does it every day here.
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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2015, 10:28:01 AM »

Some of you guys don't read too well.
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chris gadsden

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2015, 10:59:20 AM »

Some of you guys don't read too well.
As well, some of us do not write that well either. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2015, 12:18:07 PM »

Hasn't that site been a de facto hazardous waste site for the last 75 years already? Log dumps, cement plants, heavy equipment warehousing, etc. The unregulated First Nations dump sites upstream are far more dangerous, in my opinion, than a regulated and responsibly operated facility.
Where should the facility go? Good road access, large customer base nearby, rail access, history of industrial use, upwind of most of the population.
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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2015, 01:06:02 PM »

Hasn't that site been a de facto hazardous waste site for the last 75 years already? Log dumps, cement plants, heavy equipment warehousing, etc. The unregulated First Nations dump sites upstream are far more dangerous, in my opinion, than a regulated and responsibly operated facility.
Where should the facility go? Good road access, large customer base nearby, rail access, history of industrial use, upwind of most of the population.
Correct but this practice needs to stop and this would be a step in the correct direction.

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2015, 02:02:53 PM »

Hasn't that site been a de facto hazardous waste site for the last 75 years already? Log dumps, cement plants, heavy equipment warehousing, etc. The unregulated First Nations dump sites upstream are far more dangerous, in my opinion, than a regulated and responsibly operated facility.
Where should the facility go? Good road access, large customer base nearby, rail access, history of industrial use, upwind of most of the population.

Shhh, you're making too much sense ;)
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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2015, 02:16:05 PM »

As well, some of us do not write that well either. ;D ;D ;D
Don't be so hard on yourself.  :)
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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2015, 05:24:15 PM »

Don't be so hard on yourself.  :)
I am world renowned on this site since 2002. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Important Issue On The Fraser River
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2015, 05:45:23 PM »

Gonna need a larger hat Chris ;D
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