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7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« on: December 30, 2011, 08:37:03 AM »

http://blogsw.solidwastemag.com/2011/12/seven_food_items_that_should_n.html

Nature didn't intend for salmon to be crammed into pens and fed soy, poultry litter, and hydrolyzed chicken feathers. As a result, farmed salmon is lower in vitamin D and higher in contaminants, including carcinogens, PCBs, brominated flame retardants, and pesticides such as dioxin and DDT. According to Carpenter, the most contaminated fish come from Northern Europe, which can be found on American menus. "You could eat one of these salmon dinners every 5 months without increasing your risk of cancer," says Carpenter, whose 2004 fish contamination study got broad media attention. "It's that bad." Preliminary science has also linked DDT to diabetes and obesity, but some nutritionists believe the benefits of omega-3s outweigh the risks. There is also concern about the high level of antibiotics and pesticides used to treat these fish. When you eat farmed salmon, you get dosed with the same drugs and chemicals.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 08:51:06 AM »

WOW :o
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 11:47:39 AM »

Thank God I can catch and eat my own fresh fish. Always knew that farmed fish were bad for the environment but to see and hear how unhealthy they are to eat is scarey, very scarey.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 12:07:11 PM »

It gets worse.....

http://www.puresalmon.org/pdfs/human_health.pdf

"In 1999, the World Health Organization raised food safety concerns over fish farming, including salmon,1 warning that this growing practice posed risks to public health. Artificial coloring, toxic by-products, and cancer causing contaminants have all been found in factory farmed salmon. The United States currently imports approximately 200,000 tons of farmed salmon annually,2 but very little of it is ever tested for diseases or chemical contaminants. Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considered testing farmed salmon for antibiotics, pesticides, or possible carcinogens—all of which are used by many overseas salmon farms—those plans are on hold.

ARTIFICIAL COLOR
Industrial salmon farms use artificial color to make farmed fish—whose flesh is typically greyish white—appear a more appetizing “salmon” pink. Market research found that consumers “buy with their eyes” and put a premium on color. Since 1982, the use of artificial coloring in farmed salmon has more than tripled. One of the most commonly used dyes, Canthaxanthin, has been linked to human eye defects and retinal damage. In 2003, the European Commission ordered salmon farmers to sharply reduce the use of Canthaxanthin, and most countries, including the U.S., require labels to identify farmed and dyed salmon as such. Yet, fish are occasionally sold without labels: Safeway, Kroger, and Alberstons were sued in 2003 for failing to identify artificially colored, factory raised salmon.

HARMFUL CHEMICALS
Industrial salmon operations use a number of other chemicals to raise marketable fish. All of these pose known and potential risks to human health. These substances include oxytetracycline, an antibiotic that may lead to antibiotic resistance. Similar to the controversial use of antibiotics by the poultry and livestock industries, factory salmon farms must prevent fish from infecting one another with diseases. Because of the high prevalence of drugs on salmon farms, unwary consumers may ingest untold amounts of antibiotics.

FARMED SALMON AND HUMAN HEALTH
“Malachite green,” a fungicide, was banned internationally in the 1990s, but still illegally used in some salmon hatcheries and for juvenile fish. Scientists have found that exposure to malachite green may raise the risk of cancer, cause genetic mutations, and harm the human reproductive system. Contaminants like dieldrin, dioxins, toxaphene, and PCBs are often found in food and nutritional supplements manufactured for aquaculture. Because of this, farmed salmon have higher concentrations
of toxics than wild salmon. Although the U.S. EPA recommends eating salmon no more than once or twice a week, a 2004 study by independent researchers found much higher levels of toxic contaminants in farmed salmon than previously thought. These scientists recommended as little as one serving of salmon per month.

LOWER NUTRITIONAL VALUE IN FARMED SALMON VS WILD
A close reading of supermarket labels shows that some wild salmon, high in “heart-healthy,” Omega-3 fatty acids, contain less than 1 percent fat. In contrast, factory farmed fish can be as high as 27 percent fat and contain 15 percent less protein. Despite efforts by governments and international agencies to limit antibiotics, harmful chemicals, and toxic substances in farmed salmon, the danger persists. Millions of fish—raised in close confinement, eating an unvaried artificial diet, and constantly exposed to their own wastes—mean inevitable exposure to harmful chemicals. These compounds accumulate in the tissues of salmon and are passed on to humans. People who regularly eat farmed salmon face a higher, though still poorly understood, risk of retinal damage, cancer, resistance to antibiotics, and harm to reproductive and other organs.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 12:25:07 PM »

It gets worse.....

http://www.puresalmon.org/pdfs/human_health.pdf

"In 1999, the World Health Organization raised food safety concerns over fish farming, including salmon,1 warning that this growing practice posed risks to public health. Artificial coloring, toxic by-products, and cancer causing contaminants have all been found in factory farmed salmon. The United States currently imports approximately 200,000 tons of farmed salmon annually,2 but very little of it is ever tested for diseases or chemical contaminants. Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considered testing farmed salmon for antibiotics, pesticides, or possible carcinogens—all of which are used by many overseas salmon farms—those plans are on hold.

ARTIFICIAL COLOR
Industrial salmon farms use artificial color to make farmed fish—whose flesh is typically greyish white—appear a more appetizing “salmon” pink. Market research found that consumers “buy with their eyes” and put a premium on color. Since 1982, the use of artificial coloring in farmed salmon has more than tripled. One of the most commonly used dyes, Canthaxanthin, has been linked to human eye defects and retinal damage. In 2003, the European Commission ordered salmon farmers to sharply reduce the use of Canthaxanthin, and most countries, including the U.S., require labels to identify farmed and dyed salmon as such. Yet, fish are occasionally sold without labels: Safeway, Kroger, and Alberstons were sued in 2003 for failing to identify artificially colored, factory raised salmon.

HARMFUL CHEMICALS
Industrial salmon operations use a number of other chemicals to raise marketable fish. All of these pose known and potential risks to human health. These substances include oxytetracycline, an antibiotic that may lead to antibiotic resistance. Similar to the controversial use of antibiotics by the poultry and livestock industries, factory salmon farms must prevent fish from infecting one another with diseases. Because of the high prevalence of drugs on salmon farms, unwary consumers may ingest untold amounts of antibiotics.

FARMED SALMON AND HUMAN HEALTH
“Malachite green,” a fungicide, was banned internationally in the 1990s, but still illegally used in some salmon hatcheries and for juvenile fish. Scientists have found that exposure to malachite green may raise the risk of cancer, cause genetic mutations, and harm the human reproductive system. Contaminants like dieldrin, dioxins, toxaphene, and PCBs are often found in food and nutritional supplements manufactured for aquaculture. Because of this, farmed salmon have higher concentrations
of toxics than wild salmon. Although the U.S. EPA recommends eating salmon no more than once or twice a week, a 2004 study by independent researchers found much higher levels of toxic contaminants in farmed salmon than previously thought. These scientists recommended as little as one serving of salmon per month.

LOWER NUTRITIONAL VALUE IN FARMED SALMON VS WILD
A close reading of supermarket labels shows that some wild salmon, high in “heart-healthy,” Omega-3 fatty acids, contain less than 1 percent fat. In contrast, factory farmed fish can be as high as 27 percent fat and contain 15 percent less protein. Despite efforts by governments and international agencies to limit antibiotics, harmful chemicals, and toxic substances in farmed salmon, the danger persists. Millions of fish—raised in close confinement, eating an unvaried artificial diet, and constantly exposed to their own wastes—mean inevitable exposure to harmful chemicals. These compounds accumulate in the tissues of salmon and are passed on to humans. People who regularly eat farmed salmon face a higher, though still poorly understood, risk of retinal damage, cancer, resistance to antibiotics, and harm to reproductive and other organs.


Hmmmm.... I wonder http://www.streetdirectory.com/food_editorials/cooking/meat_recipes/harmful_chemicals_in_the_meat_you_eat.html
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 12:44:53 PM »

More on nitrates and nitrites.

http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/seasoningflavoring/a/nitrates.htm

Key Point:


The reality is that companies that make nitrate-free hot dogs have to use something to substitute for the sodium nitrate. Celery juice is a popular choice. And guess what celery juice contains lots of? Sodium nitrate. And guess what that sodium nitrate turns into when you eat it? Sodium nitrite!

As we said earlier, celery is a natural source of sodium nitrate. (Notice that no one is currently claiming that celery causes cancer or that people should reduce their intake of celery.) But by adding celery juice to their hot dogs, manufacturers can make products loaded with sodium nitrate while legally being able to claim "no added nitrates." Because all the nitrates are in the celery juice. As a matter of fact, these supposedly "natural" or "organic" products sometimes contain twice as much sodium nitrate, even up to a whopping ten times as much sodium nitrate, as conventional products.

You can pretty much find something wrong with food production as a whole.  Do this search on line "problems with farming _________"  fill in the blanks with whatever food you like and you are going to find PROBLEMS.  You cant even farm the wind without having problems.  Chances are that the worry in your gut about all this is more toxic than most of the food available to us.  And if your sippin on some alcohol tonight your going to want to take another look at that.  Organic farming is plagued with problems.  Luckily we have a new label for that.  Sustainability.  Totally abused term.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 12:52:52 PM »

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The solution: Switch to wild-caught Alaska salmon.

AF you keep posting Alaska caught ranched salmon as a solution.  Do you really support that?
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 01:25:52 PM »

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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 02:34:05 PM »

AP - you're quoting something from within the Blog - not what AF has written.

And how did you get 'ranched' from 'wild-caught'   ???

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 02:43:13 PM »

West coast salmon and trout hatcheries use antibiotics and fungicides as well but strangely we don't hear very much about that ;D
The very small Cultus Lake sockeye hatchery program (250 adults) uses more than 45 gallons of full-strength formaldehyde, a known human carcinogen, annually to control fungus - all of this finds it's way into Sweltzer Creek and downstream into the Vedder.
If a minuscule operation like this uses that much, one wonders at the amount larger salmon hatcheries on the Pacific coast, especially those in Washington and Alaska, use.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 03:43:16 PM »

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AP - you're quoting something from within the Blog - not what AF has written.

And how did you get 'ranched' from 'wild-caught'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py0ymFTvidU

Do you support it DaveD?
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 05:39:17 PM »

Don't really support it - However in a round about way, I like the concept of how Alaska is keeping the commercial fisheries thriving while our governments keep shuffling their feet.

Now if they would move the farms to land tanks as they do the hatcheries - that would definitely get my full support.

However - the video stated that "over 30% of the salmon came from hatcheries AND farms".  Guess that means of over 60% are wild - which btw is what the blog suggested we switch to.  And from what I read in other articles - the Alaskan return numbers keep climbing.  Other than the one exceptional year - the Fraser numbers are in decline (due to a LOT of different reasons).

BTW - we are digressing from AF's original point - its clear that we must really look into where the food we eat comes from as it is becoming a reality that misleading 'labels' may become more of the norm as the probability of getting caught is getting lower:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Mission+expose+false+labels+challenged+budget+cuts+tape/5807317/story.html
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2011, 06:19:59 PM »


BTW - we are digressing from AF's original point - its clear that we must really look into where the food we eat comes from as it is becoming a reality that misleading 'labels' may become more of the norm as the probability of getting caught is getting lower:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Mission+expose+false+labels+challenged+budget+cuts+tape/5807317/story.html

There are a lot of studies out there that show wild salmon are healthier for you than caged farm grown salmon. I have no problem with Alaska labeling their salmon as "wild caught" even though they are started in hatcheries. From a food health perspective I would be very confident eating Alaskan salmon, where I wouldn't touch a cage grown farmed salmon. I have heard that the fat content of a farmed salmon is at least 30% higher than a wild salmon.

Many assessments have found fewer omega-3s per ounce in farmed salmon compared with wild salmon, but we know the farmed stuff also comes with a hefty (not healthy) wallop of other fats including omega-6s. We then deal with the problem that the omega-6s and omega-3s compete for the same receptors in our bodies. Consequently, the “net” omega-3 gain will always be less than what you’ll get with a wild serving. Here’s a nifty chart that compares the fat content of some popular wild versus farmed fish varieties (including salmon) from this PDF. And because the farmed fish are fattier, you’ll get less protein per serving as well.

Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/salmon-factory-farm-vs-wild/#ixzz1iAXUmms7


The market for organically grown livestock and poultry is growing in spite of the higher cost because consumers are becoming more aware of the supplements, hormones and antibiotics that are used to produce much of the food we are being sold.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2011, 07:10:15 PM »

The risk of not eating farmed or wild salmon is far worse for you as the risk of coronary heart disease (CHD) is far greater. The risk of getting cancer from eating farmed salmon is not even in the same ball park. Even the World Health Organization concurs when it rates cancers against CHD. David Suzuki does not even mention it anymore as he once did and for good reason. Funded by the Pew Chartiable Trust - say no more.

I copied this from another thread.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 08:01:10 AM »

Please don't tell me that beer (in moderation) is no longer any good for me.  ::)
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