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chris gadsden

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Of course just like a lots of studies that come out they sure get numbers mixed up. The article says an orca need 670 fish a day. :-\ Then they say there is 87 orcas in 3 pods. So if each whale needs 670 a day that is 241,200 a year or over 20 million for the pod. Something wong here when they say 300,000 chinook head to the Fraser each year. With figures like this no one wonder our stocks are in decline. Bad reporting of a story or maybe I cannot multiply. :o


VICTORIA — A large share of chinook salmon heading to the B.C.'s Fraser River each summer may have to be earmarked for endangered resident killer whales if the whale population is to recover, a new paper says.


"If the aim on both sides of the border is to not only stop the decline of killer whale populations, but also help increase their numbers, then we have to ensure the salmon they require are there when they need them," said lead author Rob Williams of the University of Washington and University of B.C.


That could mean adjusting fishing plans to include an allocation of chinook for the whales and underlines the need to increase chinook salmon runs, according to the paper, published this week in the online scientific journal PLoS ONE.


"Temporary reductions in fishing quotas may buy some time while salmon spawning habitat is improved to increase salmon returns," Williams wrote.


"An intriguing policy solution would be to give killer whales a salmon catch allocation under the (Pacific Salmon) Treaty. This would be consistent with the spirit of Canada's wild salmon policy, which places conservation needs ahead of fishery allocations."


The study estimates that 87 whales in the three resident pods consume between 12 and 23 per cent of the average 300,000 chinook that head for the Fraser River each summer. Each whale needs about 670 fish a day and 42 per cent more if it is a nursing female.


"Our research indicates that southern resident killer whales easily consume 100,000 chinook each year and, depending on their winter diet, their requirements could easily be double that," said co-author Erin Ashe.


In comparison, the average total catch in fisheries is 18,000.


If the population recovers to 155 animals over the next 28 years — the goal of a U.S. recovery strategy — the whales' need for food would increase by up to 75 per cent, the paper estimates.


Resident killer whales specialize in feeding on chinook, often ignoring other species of salmon. The newly-released Canadian recovery strategy, under the Species At Risk Act, says adequate supplies of prey must be available to the whales.


But one problem facing researchers and fisheries managers is that both resident orcas and chinook are at risk, which means the needs of one species has to be balanced against another.


"When one protected species relies almost exclusively on another protected species, it can be difficult to develop management frameworks that meet the needs of both species," the paper says.


The fear is that the more charismatic species will unfairly trump the prey species, it says.


In 1908, an estimated 690,000 chinook returned and an ecosystem-based approach to fisheries stock assessments and management is needed for the runs to recover, it says.


John Ford, senior research scientist with the federal Fisheries Pacific Biological Station in Nanaimo, B.C., said the efforts to estimate how many chinook are needed by killer whales falls in parallel with work at joint workshops involving the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration .


An independent scientific panel is looking at how to balance the needs of whales and chinook salmon, Ford said.


"There is a strong link between chinook abundance and resident killer whale survival," he said.


One of the unanswered questions is what the whales eat in winter, Ford said.


"Is it chinook? We know so little about their whereabouts," he said.


"All these questions are getting a lot of attention now as we look at whether there's a need to modify the human-based harvest."


Victoria Times Colonist


jlavoie@timescolonist.com



Read more: http://www.canada.com/technology/Cutting+salmon+catch+could+save+voracious+endangered+orcas+study/5703151/story.html#ixzz1dbmV8QPq

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 01:35:46 PM »

Bad reporting of a story or maybe I cannot multiply. :o

You can multiply Chris...

670 chinook salmon per whale per day? That would be one every 2.15 MINUTES, 24/7/365.  ::)

If you combine J,K & L pod(all found off SVI) we get around 80 whales eating a combined almost 60,000 chinook PER DAY!

Break that down to a full year and we're looking at almost 23 Million chinook and that doesn't take into account the increased appetite of nursing whales.

If you follow the claim that the article makes that whales eat around 20% of the total available salmon that puts chinook salmon numbers around 100 Million fish in the SVI area over the course of a year...  :o

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 02:03:35 PM »

Thanks for checking my math skills Matt. ;D With that in mind I sent the reporter this note.

Good afternoon,
I think someone provided you with some wrong figures for your story.

The article says an orca need 670 fish a day.  Then they say there is 87 orcas in 3 pods. So if each whale needs 670 a day that is 241,200 a year or over 20 million for the pod. Something wrong here when they tell you only 300,000 chinook head to the Fraser each year, If these figures are true no one wonder our stocks are in decline.

Maybe you can do a follow up story and correct these figure you were provided with.

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Chris Gadsden
Chilliwack B. C.

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 02:06:26 PM »

Wow I got a fast response from Judy.

I believe I might have left out the word pounds - unfortunately away from office and don't have paperwork

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM »

LOL! Ok, let's run with a high average for the springs, say 20 pounds.

670 Pounds divided by 20 = 33.5 fish per whale per day (one very 43 minutes 24/7/365) Possible...
Times 87 whales  2914.5 fish per day
Times that by 365 days in a year = 1,063,792.5 fish per year.

Likely low due to the real average (year round) weight of springs being well below the 20 employed for the purpose of discussion.

That still seems more than a little tad high to me, and again reflects on your surmise regarding stock declines  ;)

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 02:36:27 PM »

This is from the actually paper in PLoS One which is an open access journal:

"If SRKWs met their energetic requirements exclusively through Chinook salmon (i.e., the “100% scenario”), the 2009 SRKW population would require the energetic equivalent of approximately 241,500 Chinook salmon annually..... Clearly, the killer whale diet is not composed entirely of Chinook, so our “summer” estimate represents a more plausible summary of the various studies published to date. In summer months (May through September), 83% of the SRKW diet is composed of Chinook salmon, 90% of which are of Fraser River origin [18]. SRKWs are found in their core summer habitat on 79% of days from May–September [46]. We present plausible estimates of SRKW pressure on Fraser River Chinook stocks (“Summer” estimates in Table 1) by multiplying the annual energetic demand by 24.6% (namely 5/12 * 0.83 * 0.90 * 0.79). Depending on body size, the best estimate of the summer demand on Fraser River Chinook is 59,384 (range 42,000–97,600; Table 1). Depending on caloric value of Chinook and given the best estimate of body size, these lower, “summer” estimates may be as low as 52,000 and as high as 89,500 (Table 2) Fraser River Chinook consumed annually by SRKWs in core habitat in summer months."

So the annual Chinook eaten by the entire killer whale population drops from 241,500 to 52,000 - 89,500 whne you account for summer feeding, how many Chinook are Fraser River fish, etc. Still a fair chunk of fish.

The 670 fish/whale/day in the newspaper report is wrong. It's more like 7/whale/day.

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 03:00:20 PM »

This is from the actually paper in PLoS One which is an open access journal:

"If SRKWs met their energetic requirements exclusively through Chinook salmon (i.e., the “100% scenario”), the 2009 SRKW population would require the energetic equivalent of approximately 241,500 Chinook salmon annually..... Clearly, the killer whale diet is not composed entirely of Chinook, so our “summer” estimate represents a more plausible summary of the various studies published to date. In summer months (May through September), 83% of the SRKW diet is composed of Chinook salmon, 90% of which are of Fraser River origin [18]. SRKWs are found in their core summer habitat on 79% of days from May–September [46]. We present plausible estimates of SRKW pressure on Fraser River Chinook stocks (“Summer” estimates in Table 1) by multiplying the annual energetic demand by 24.6% (namely 5/12 * 0.83 * 0.90 * 0.79). Depending on body size, the best estimate of the summer demand on Fraser River Chinook is 59,384 (range 42,000–97,600; Table 1). Depending on caloric value of Chinook and given the best estimate of body size, these lower, “summer” estimates may be as low as 52,000 and as high as 89,500 (Table 2) Fraser River Chinook consumed annually by SRKWs in core habitat in summer months."

So the annual Chinook eaten by the entire killer whale population drops from 241,500 to 52,000 - 89,500 whne you account for summer feeding, how many Chinook are Fraser River fish, etc. Still a fair chunk of fish.

The 670 fish/whale in the newspaper report is wrong. It's more like 70/day for the entire whale population.


Thanks lets see if Judy does some short of correction. It shows how newspapers can get incorrect stories out. Hard to believe what you read and hear from... some politicans.

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 05:26:51 PM »

Judy working on a correction after I brought this to her attention, she writes.

Thanks - now trying to call upstudy

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Re: Cutting salmon catch could save voracious, endangered orcas: study
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 01:43:54 PM »

ahhaha that made me laugh, wow. 20 million chinooks per year?  :D it seems more realistic that it is 670 fish each whale is for a prime feeding month in the summer. it's funny though how we probably read numbers like that every day but don't know the real facts and just believe them because the papers say them.

Its funny because people tend to think things are legit when there is a statistic or number attached. Innumeracy, anyone?  ;D
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