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alwaysfishn

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Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« on: July 05, 2011, 11:03:36 AM »

I now understand why the Tyee reports the way it does....

Not only is is run by a bunch of left wing hacks, they publicly acknowledge they can't  afford original reporting so they make stuff up ar ask people to write in with made up stuff. On top of that they want you to donate....

"Dear Friend of the Tyee,  -- Not sure why they call me a friend, as I was the only person that disagreed with everything Tielman wrote in his last blog  ???

There's a big election coming here in British Columbia. It could be as early as August, if the buzz proves right. It will pit Clark against Dix -- not just their personalities, but their agendas. The issues they try to champion. Or ignore.

Which means what gets reported could determine the province we live in for years after.

So here's our proposal to you. Tell us your top issues. Donate whatever you can -- $25, $50, $200 -- and we'll see that money goes to pay a reporter to cover your issue during the provincial contest.

As you know, The Tyee produces hard-hitting, award-winning journalism.   :o  ::)

Problem is, original reporting is expensive. That's where you come in. We need you to:

    Tell us what matters to you.

    Is climate change making you hot under the collar? Does the prospect of a pipeline across the province and oil tankers on the coast make you squirm? Are you losing sleep over the HST? Do you have access to affordable childcare? What about the privatization of public services? Tell us.

    Donate to our election reporting fund.

    Every dollar is a vote for the issue you care about. The more dollars, the more comprehensive the reporting on a particular issue.

So, please, give us your feedback, donate now and together we can inject reliable, fact-based reporting into the democratic conversation.

Vote and donate online >>

Sound familiar?

In the weeks leading up the the 2009 provincial election, we made a similar appeal. And we were overwhelmed by the response. Readers spoke to us with their donations, other media took note, and our reporters uncovered major scoops. Just check out this list of stories.

In short, together we made history. Your donations, your issues. Let's do it again. Let's show 'em what a determined school of fish can do! All together now!

Vote and donate online >>

Thanks for your support!

Warm wishes

David Beers
Editor, The Tyee"


Sounds like some of those TV preachers.  I guess that's how Shreck and Tielman get paid for the crap they "report".   ;D  ;D
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 12:49:08 PM »

I take it your more a Pamela Martin fan then.
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 02:44:47 PM »

I take it your more a Pamela Martin fan then.

She is definitely better in the looks department than either Tielman or Shreck!  ;D
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 03:49:05 PM »

you honestly think that the other news sources are original content and don't have an agenda. lmao. From what I gathered from what you posted they are asking for what matters to everyday people not simply reporting whatever THEY think is important. Also they are independant and don't have a huge reserve of cash, so obviously they are going to ask for donations, you think the other newspapers wouldn't do that in the same situation....
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 04:46:32 PM »

you honestly think that the other news sources are original content and don't have an agenda. lmao. From what I gathered from what you posted they are asking for what matters to everyday people not simply reporting whatever THEY think is important. Also they are independant and don't have a huge reserve of cash, so obviously they are going to ask for donations, you think the other newspapers wouldn't do that in the same situation....

Most "newspapers" I read try to report objectively. The Tyee has a purely left wing bias and is not shy about promoting that.

Even the "Tell us what matters" leads readers to write in with complaints about everything the government does.

Why not ask readers "What do think about paying the second lowest income tax rate in Canada"? Or what do you think about living in a province that has come from being a have-not province under the NDP, to being a province that has the 3rd highest economic growth rate of all the provinces"?

Feel free to donate though, apparently Tielman and Shreck want to be paid for their "reporting".
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 05:03:05 PM »

do you want to do your job for free???? ::). And many many newspapers are biased in their views. Many in fact are biased towards liberal agendas considering they give their business tax breaks instead of joe blow. People very rarely will reply to a good news topic whereas many many people will reply to a news story that pisses them off. So what you are saying is you wish they would print ideas from the far right?? enough newspapers are already promoting the right wing agenda
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 05:29:37 PM »

do you want to do your job for free???? ::). And many many newspapers are biased in their views. Many in fact are biased towards liberal agendas considering they give their business tax breaks instead of joe blow. People very rarely will reply to a good news topic whereas many many people will reply to a news story that pisses them off. So what you are saying is you wish they would print ideas from the far right?? enough newspapers are already promoting the right wing agenda

I wouldn't attempt to be so presumptuous as to suggest how they report.  ;D

I guess I am suggesting that using them as an objective news source is not recommended.
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 07:38:22 AM »

Cheese with your whine AF? Maybe everyone isn't a clone of your silly ideas.

WHY DOESN'T THE WORLD AGREE WITH ME? I'M ALWAYS RIGHT BECAUSE I'M AF!!!! (far right)

HILARIOUS!- IF the stuff was "made up" they'd be sued and totally broke. And, despite your bleatings, others have a different view than those of you and the rest of the good little Fraser Institute Stepford wives.




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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 12:20:22 PM »

Most "newspapers" I read try to report objectively...
Are you drunk?
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 12:26:33 PM »

Are you drunk?


24 hours to come up with that comment?   ???

Why don't you take a week, maybe you'll come up with something we can actually discuss.....   ::)
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 01:30:29 AM »

Most "newspapers" I read try to report objectively.

How are the last few days of teacher bashing in the Province and Vancouver Sun in of the middle contract negotiations with the government bargaining team BCPSEA "objective reporting"?  Not a single article reporting on BCPCEA's draconian proposals of contract stripping and concessions.  No, only attacks on teacher's and their "unreasonable" demands culminating in Tuesday's cartoon of Hitler as a Substitute teacher.  Hardly objective at all, and clearly biased.  But shhhh...let's not discuss that.  That might expose the CanWestGlobalPostMedia monopoly for what it is...a right wing capitalist rag.  The Province's allusion to Hitler is ironic, given that Hitler perfected, in the fascist movement, the joining of state power with corporate interests, just as we see in most capitalist regimes, including the BC Liberals.

So are you criticizing the TYEE for calling for donations (because they do not have large corporate sponsors) or for asking readers what issues interest them and that they would like to see report on (because they do not have a government agenda to promote)? 

No where did they publicly acknowledge that they "make stuff up" or ask for "made up stuff" to be mailed in.   You are distorting the facts to shamelessly promote your own biases. They simply asked for readers to tell them about what issues they are interested and for donations to help pay for reporters to go out and report on those issues, so readers do not have to rely on the one sided bias of CanWestGlobal/Post Media for their information.

Gasp!  Really?  The Nerve!
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 07:40:12 AM »

How are the last few days of teacher bashing in the Province and Vancouver Sun in of the middle contract negotiations with the government bargaining team BCPSEA "objective reporting"?  Not a single article reporting on BCPCEA's draconian proposals of contract stripping and concessions.  No, only attacks on teacher's and their "unreasonable" demands culminating in Tuesday's cartoon of Hitler as a Substitute teacher.  Hardly objective at all, and clearly biased.  But shhhh...let's not discuss that.  That might expose the CanWestGlobalPostMedia monopoly for what it is...a right wing capitalist rag.  The Province's allusion to Hitler is ironic, given that Hitler perfected, in the fascist movement, the joining of state power with corporate interests, just as we see in most capitalist regimes, including the BC Liberals.

So are you criticizing the TYEE for calling for donations (because they do not have large corporate sponsors) or for asking readers what issues interest them and that they would like to see report on (because they do not have a government agenda to promote)? 

No where did they publicly acknowledge that they "make stuff up" or ask for "made up stuff" to be mailed in.   You are distorting the facts to shamelessly promote your own biases. They simply asked for readers to tell them about what issues they are interested and for donations to help pay for reporters to go out and report on those issues, so readers do not have to rely on the one sided bias of CanWestGlobal/Post Media for their information.

Gasp!  Really?  The Nerve!

I appreciate you giving your perspective!  Unfortunately, you seem to be having difficulty seeing the "forest for the trees."

It's like reading the Tyee... You and Novabonker should apply for a job there.  :D
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Re: Quality of reporting at the Tyee
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 08:38:48 AM »

I now understand why the Tyee reports the way it does....


Maybe I was a little unfair to the Tyee....   Or maybe someone snuck this article in while Teilman and Shreck had their backs turned.  ;D

The Tyee
Four Reasons Why the Left Should Love the HST

In fact, progressives should clamour for a higher rate, with targeted tax credits to make it just.

By: By Krishna Pendakur, 29 June 2011, TheTyee.ca

View full article and comments: http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2011/06/29/LoveTheHST/

At some level, it is puzzling that the left is all up in arms against the HST. After all, it is a tax. Are we not supposed to love taxes, because we love to spend on public goods such as health care, education and the environment?

There are four big reasons that the HST is good.

First, the federal government gave us $1.6 billion to switch. And if we switch back, we have to pay them back. That is $400 per person in B.C., either more taxes or less public spending.

Second, as we all know, we give preferential tax treatment to some things and activities, things and activities that we value socially. For example, we did not charge GST/HST on medical goods and services or on children's clothing. Not taxing them is subsidizing them (compared to taxing them). Subsidizing things we intend to subsidize is good. In contrast, subsidizing things we do not intend to subsidize is bad. Why do you suppose the PST applied to goods, but did not apply to services? It was not because we, as a society, felt that services were somehow socially valued and deserve subsidies. It was because at the time the tax was instituted, it was difficult to tax services because the economy was on the whole less electronic, less bank-oriented, and harder to monitor and police. So, the PST gave preferential treatment to services for reasons having nothing to do with a social consensus regarding the need to subsidize services, but rather for technological reasons that no longer apply. It is better to tax all goods and services, and make exceptions for those that we explicitly intend to subsidize.

Third, the "blue-ribbon" report released last month said that, in combination with the associated refundable tax credits (read: cheques from the government) for low-income households, the HST on net helps families in the bottom fifth of the income distribution and hurts everyone else. They estimate that it will cost $350 more per family than the old PST/GST combination. If you are worried about the impact of the HST on, say, the second fifth from the bottom (the bottom fifth gets those cheques), then you could clamour for cheques to be written for them, too. Canada Revenue Agency is extremely good at writing cheques (as well as at accepting them), and if B.C. tells them to write cheques to offset the hardship of the HST for lower-middle income households, they will do it. They will send us the bill, but they will do it.

The panel report found that, in the short term, families will pay about $1.3 billion more per year in sales taxes. At the same time, businesses will pay about $730 million less per year in sales taxes. So, the HST will collect about $600 million more in revenue than the GST/PST combination, and it causes a shift in taxation from businesses to people. The increased revenue is a real thing, but the shift in taxation is an illusion. The reason is that we know from watching the introduction of the GST in Canada and the HST in the Atlantic provinces, that after a couple of years, firms pass on their tax savings to customers through lower prices. Only firms that do not have to compete for your business will be able to hang on to their tax savings and make greater profits. The panel estimates that such firms are about one-tenth of the economy. Other firms have to compete to keep their customers, and these will pass on the savings to consumers in the form of lower prices.

Fourth, the PST was applied to every transaction of goods, even among firms. Thus, goods that were made of a lot of goods could get taxed more than once under the PST. This means that you paid more PST than you thought under the old system, because you also had to pay the PST that the firm had paid to make the good you bought. In contrast, the HST is a "value-added tax." Firms collect receipts for all the goods and services they buy in the production process, and they get credit for those receipts when they remit to Canada Revenue Agency. This means that the total tax paid for any good or service is exactly the HST rate.

A better kind of tax

All of the above reasons are about the type of tax we want to have, not the rate that we should charge. And the type of tax B.C. will have is what the referendum is about. Regardless of political orientation, it is almost uniformly felt among economists that the type of tax we want is a value-added tax charged on all goods and services except those are explicitly identified as needing social subsidies.

When it comes to the question of what rate to charge, the left should be clamouring for higher rates, not the lower rates (10 per cent instead of 12 per cent) recently promised by the BC Liberals. "We demand a 15 per cent HST!" More public expenditure requires more taxation. All the social expenditures that we want for our families and our children -- more nurses and GPs, smaller classrooms, better universities, more parks, and so on -- need money. The HST is a good way to raise money.

We can offset the HST's effects on low-income households by using refundable tax credits (read: writing them cheques).

So, get on board and vote NO so that we get to keep this awesome tax. [Tyee]

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 10:01:37 AM »

I think it was the former.
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