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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fishseeker on July 08, 2013, 12:50:39 PM
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I have not fished the Squamish river for pinks before but I do believe they are supposed to be back in that system this year.
Can anybody tell me if it Is it better to fish the first or the second week of August? I am planning to take time off and I would like to avoid the period around that long weekend at the beginning of August if the fishing is likely to be just as good in the second week.
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The amount of fish moving through the system shouldn't differ too much during those two weeks. If the tide is right, then you should see lots of fish moving into the lower river. With that being said, it's difficult to say how abundant they will be this year until they actually start returning, which is why no retention opening is announced yet.
Fishing pressure also shouldn't differ too much, weekdays are almost as equally busy as weekends at the more popular stretches of the river.
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Rod I dead on about the fishing pressure. I have gone weekdays and weekends and its basically the same even if you get there in the dark a lot of the more popular spots are filling up by day break.
I will be up that way the second week/weekend in August ;D
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Interesting..I would have expected it to be less busy during the week...oh well. I guess I will just go with the second week if the run is going to be much the same at that point - at least I will have a pretty good idea how it has shaped up by then.
Thanks.
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Every pink year I usually start hunting them along the beaches heading to the Squamish in mid July. I find not very many really start entering the river itself until the last few days of July, the run picks up by the second week and then by the third week you start seeing a lot of dark fish staging with some chrome ones still arriving. Mid august I will stop heading that way and start seeking out the pinks in the Fraser instead
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Every pink year I usually start hunting them along the beaches heading to the Squamish in mid July. I find not very many really start entering the river itself until the last few days of July, the run picks up by the second week and then by the third week you start seeing a lot of dark fish staging with some chrome ones still arriving. Mid august I will stop heading that way and start seeking out the pinks in the Fraser instead
Thanks for the info Hook
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http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=152404&ID=recreational
FYI, in case you are unaware of this, currently driving has been closed along the gravel road leading up to the Mamquam River mouth (see earlier discussion (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=32536.0)), so it will be a LONG walk for anyone who wishes to fish that stretch of the river.
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For somebody that has never fished this river, where is a good starting point? Any help is appreciated.
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AND the DFO site indicates that subareas 28-1 to 28-5 are "Closed until further notice." Does this mean no fishing, or just no retention?
See:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s28-eng.html#Pink
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The notice just came out an hour ago, so the main static site is most likely not updated yet but hopefully soon.
Here is the notice for sub-areas 28-1 to 5 (Howe Sound).
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=152400&ID=recreational
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best part is the opening to retention is happening just has the run is entering the river. Pictures from last weekends catch are floating around out there and the fish are in great shape right now.
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FYI, in case you are unaware of this, currently driving has been closed along the gravel road leading up to the Mamquam River mouth (see earlier discussion (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=32536.0)), so it will be a LONG walk for anyone who wishes to fish that stretch of the river.
= less people..... ;D
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Yup, it's going to be a long, hot walk in waders and boots.
Anyone looking to carry an icebox better head to the Fraser/Vedder. ;D
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I was not sure how the daily salmon retention limits apply when fishing both the salt and fresh water in one day. In case you were too, I will save you the time to look. It is from page 7 of the salt water regulations.
"If you fish both tidal and non-tidal waters the same day, the daily limit
is inclusive for both tidal and non-tidal areas"
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Yup, it's going to be a long, hot walk in waders and boots.
Any ideas as to where the gate is? Near where the dyke rd meets up with Gov't Rd, or is it further north?
Thnx
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The gate is just past the Railway Museam on the First Nation Reserve. There may be a solution in the works but it is takeing it's time to get resolved. Just for clarification, the Mamquam bar is not as nice as it has been in some years and it's not going to be able to handle as many anglers as in the past. Going to get silly, stupid very quickly
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Thanks. Is it possible to fish further south (e.g. towards the spit)? I don't mind buying an additional (saltwater) licence; more important is getting into some fish, though an uncrowded spot would be nice. I've heard this fishery can be good; with multi-fish days being the norm (when they're about). Sounds like fun!
Feel free to e-mail.
Thanks!
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Anyone know a spot for a starting point for catching these pinks?
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Anyone know a spot for a starting point for catching these pinks?
-Cheakamus River; Mamquam River downstream of the CN rail bridge; and
-the Squamish River downstream of boundary signs at the powerline crossing
approximately 1.5 km upstream of the confluence with the Cheakamus River.
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Howe sound :P
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Howe sound :P
You got it Hook, the sound was awesome today. I caught and released 10 today, as it was an spectacular day of fly fishing for pink salmon in my dingy off the beaches of Howe Sound. I had to pack it in early as my arms were getting sore. I was anchored offshore and casting into the shallows, sometimes practically at the feet of guys fishing on shore (the guy waded right into the spot where I was casting :o), and I was hooking them left, right and center. I hooked a couple on my classic pink clouser, but then tied on your Chartreuse clouser and man did they love that fly. At one time I had 3 fish on in 3 casts.
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You got it Hook, the sound was awesome today. I caught and released 10 today, as it was an spectacular day of fly fishing for pink salmon in my dingy off the beaches of Howe Sound. I had to pack it in early as my arms were getting sore. I was anchored offshore and casting into the shallows, sometimes practically at the feet of guys fishing on shore (the guy waded right into the spot where I was casting :o), and I was hooking them left, right and center. I hooked a couple on my classic pink clouser, but then tied on your Chartreuse clouser and man did they love that fly. At one time I had 3 fish on in 3 casts.
that sounds amazing.. Where abouts along Howe Sound were you fishing? I went with my little brother today to the mouth of the capilano and it was completely dead.. been trying to get him into a salmon for a long time. Iv heard guys wade out near furry creek but that's about it.. is there a stretch between the mouth of cap and squamish that you guys are specificly fishing at?
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that sounds amazing.. Where abouts along Howe Sound were you fishing? I went with my little brother today to the mouth of the capilano and it was completely dead.. been trying to get him into a salmon for a long time. Iv heard guys wade out near furry creek but that's about it.. is there a stretch between the mouth of cap and squamish that you guys are specificly fishing at?
Furry Creek is probably the best spot to take him as the beach is huge at low tide (and usually still crowded), Brittania Beach is another. There are a few spots between Horseshoe Bay and Porteau Cove but you need to hike down to them and it can be challenging.
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the Clouser strikes again !! ;)
I actually found out how well it worked by fluke years ago. Pink wasn't getting many hits anymore on the Squamish one morning. I stood there staring into my fly box wondering what to try and then decided "wonder if they will take green" so I tied on the clouser. cast it out and proceeded to hit a fish every cast to every few casts the rest of the day. I lost count at over 50 fish !! :o
Sandman - how do your arms get sore reeling in pinks ? :P lol
P.S. - there is times when even the clouser wont get many fish, usually those days they are strickly on pink, once in awhile its blue. sometimes you need half of your fly to be silver or gold to get consistent action. Yes pinks are an easy to catch fish however they can also be fickle little buggers once in awhile
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Furry Creek is probably the best spot to take him as the beach is huge at low tide (and usually still crowded), Brittania Beach is another. T
Don't go to Brittania Beach area as that is closed to all fin fish at this time of year. The boundary markers are from the point at Minaty Bay straight line to a white marker on the rocks just north of Brittania Creek. Check the saltwater regs for the legal description.
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Sandman - how do your arms get sore reeling in pinks ? :P lol
A couple of them had a 250 pound seal attached to it... ;)
Actually, my rod arm has been sore for a while since I upgraded from a 30lb recurve bow to a 60lb compound.
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I was giving you a hard time. I love fighting seals on a 5wt, what a blast !
best is trying to dodge them as they sweep into shore along the Squamish river. I had to jump over one and also got knocked flying trying to dodge one on the same day. I zagged when I should have zigged and placed myself right in its swim path ..... ouch ! It can be pretty freaky the first time you see this huge black mass chasing a school of fish around your feet when your only ankle deep, especially when the fish go through your legs !!
had the seal beach itself behind us chasing fish a few days after the trip I got knocked down. I haven't seen them that aggressive up there since then. I actually kind of hope to see it again cause it was intense and exciting to see nature in its purest form ;D
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Don't go to Brittania Beach area as that is closed to all fin fish at this time of year. The boundary markers are from the point at Minaty Bay straight line to a white marker on the rocks just north of Brittania Creek. Check the saltwater regs for the legal description.
Yeah, good to know. I was thinking of that pebble beach in Minaty Bay.
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You got it Hook, the sound was awesome today. I caught and released 10 today, as it was an spectacular day of fly fishing for pink salmon in my dingy off the beaches of Howe Sound. I had to pack it in early as my arms were getting sore. I was anchored offshore and casting into the shallows, sometimes practically at the feet of guys fishing on shore (the guy waded right into the spot where I was casting :o), and I was hooking them left, right and center. I hooked a couple on my classic pink clouser, but then tied on your Chartreuse clouser and man did they love that fly. At one time I had 3 fish on in 3 casts.
where did you launch your dingy? What size is it?
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2000 views of this thread......GONG!!
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2000 views of this thread......GONG!!
yep, best you go back to the vedder eh!!!
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I just invited my whole whole neighbourhood block , add another 20 to that beach tomorrow morning
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I hear the Keith Wilson bridge is a great place to fish for pinks and launch boats ::)
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R.I.P
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It seems the Squamish Pinks are early by 2 weeks compared to 2011. Does anybody think the Fraser Pinks will also be early?
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They aren't early. normally no one talks about the small amount of early very chrome fish that start trickling in. By beginning of August anyone that has fished Furry Creek or a few of the other beaches has noticed the fishing has tapered off meaning that more have reached the river already
My buddy was on the river yesterday and got a late start. he arrived with a friend around 9am and the entire bar was lined with guys already. he didn't see much action for himself or anyone else
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Hit the squam yesterday to test drive my new TCX 8119 Switch rod and get my son spey casting as well!! We were there shortly after first light. I saw more fisherman than fish. Managed to lose one in the four hours and same for my son. Went back for the evening and saw a couple hooked but really not too exciting in terms of numbers of fish. Saw a tone of guys at Furry creek in the morning
The new rod is an absolute rocket!! And was good to see my 12 yr old son spey casting too. It was a beauty of a day to be out on the river!
Still kinda early yet!
hotrod
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why are you starting him so late Hotrod ? ;)
I have shown my 4yr old a bit of two handing already. Plan to show him more in August for pinks, he is already becoming quite the sniper with his spinner outfit though, as we have been practicing in the boat on lakes. He aims for my fly bobbers as a target LoL
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why are you starting him so late Hotrod ? ;)
I have shown my 4yr old a bit of two handing already. Plan to show him more in August for pinks, he is already becoming quite the sniper with his spinner outfit though, as we have been practicing in the boat on lakes. He aims for my fly bobbers as a target LoL
Aren't you just better than everyone else...? ::) Starting your boy earlier than everyone else, suggesting others using buzz bombs are snagging fish. You probably think you have a longer rod than everyone else lol... ::)
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The local Sport Fishing Advisory Committee has made recommendation to the District of Squamish to develop designated parking areas for this Squamish River pink salmon fishing season. Please see poster.
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actually I don't, but your free to think that. I was just grinding his gears a little cause im sure his kid(s) have been fishing since they were very small. I believe he only picked up the two hander a couple years ago himself.
I personally know several people that have had their kids learning to single hand cast at the age of 3 so im actually a bit behind. My son is more interested in two handing anyhow because I have asked him if he wanted to learn single and his reply was (when im a bit bigger maybe) Switch rods are great for teaching little guys, very light and fairly short and I said I have shown him a bit, meaning that I have let him pretend to cast the rod just going through the motions. My son is obsessed with fishing so why wouldn't I start teaching him ? Also having pinks this year to really get him interested is perfect.
will it really aggravate you to know my 2yr will be reeling in pinks also ? My 4yr old did the same when he was 2 and loved it
Buzz bombs ? I have never seen them used other than to snag pinks, I even see lots of people leave the treble hooks on them ???
Thanks for the parking update Rod ;D
PS - I actually like a shorter rod :P
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Buzz bombs ? I have never seen them used other than to snag pinks, I even see lots of people leave the treble hooks on them ???
That's unfortunate. I caught all of my pinks from beach on buzz bombs using circle hooks and have never snagged one. It works.
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That's unfortunate. I caught all of my pinks from beach on buzz bombs using circle hooks and have never snagged one. It works.
X2
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There is a way to catch them in the Fraser on buzz bombs with less snagging. You have to let it get right down deep and then.... lift, retieve slow, drop ....repeat,.... Like fishing the BB in the chuck, just got to get down deep. Reel in up to where you can get snagged on the bottom then real in fast lifting the rod. Usually this will get them far out on the cast not so much near shore. We ended up with 4 out of 5 hooked from them biting the lure. Works well on the deeper parts of the lower river.
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why are you starting him so late Hotrod ? ;)
I have shown my 4yr old a bit of two handing already. Plan to show him more in August for pinks, he is already becoming quite the sniper with his spinner outfit though, as we have been practicing in the boat on lakes. He aims for my fly bobbers as a target LoL
LMAO!!!
It's all good! Have had my son out since he was 2! It's a lot of fun ,as you know hook, and now I have a very good partner on the river and so will you or anybody who passes on the sacred knowledge. I have 4 kids, so very busy and the best way to get to the river is teach them all!
Cheers fellas!
hotrod
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I have 4 kids, so very busy and the best way to get to the river is teach them all!
I resemble that remark!
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That's unfortunate. I caught all of my pinks from beach on buzz bombs using circle hooks and have never snagged one. It works.
Do you miss many hook-ups because the circle hook slips out of the fish's mouth when you set it or do the fish actually hook themselves? I have been thinking about using circle hooks when float fishing for either pink or coho salmon, didn't think anyone would actually use them for lure fishing. Very interesting.
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I tried circle hooks before for coho to keep from the accidental chum snagging that goes on when they thrash around. I found you really need a heavy hook set to bury the hook. my softer tipped rod just didn't seem up to the task most of the time but when the fish took it hard they more of less hooked themselves..............total fluke with coho usually though
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just did the walk last weekend, the gate is right off of Govt road at the Spit exit.
At least 25 minutes to get to a fishable spot
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Btw HOOK's kids are only there so he can retain more fish by using their limits.
His kids have never touched a rod...I'd know cause I fish with him ;)
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They aren't early. normally no one talks about the small amount of early very chrome fish that start trickling in. By beginning of August anyone that has fished Furry Creek or a few of the other beaches has noticed the fishing has tapered off meaning that more have reached the river already
My buddy was on the river yesterday and got a late start. he arrived with a friend around 9am and the entire bar was lined with guys already. he didn't see much action for himself or anyone else
I fished Howe Sound yesterday and it was not smokin' by any standard. Lots of room on the beach, that tells you sumthin and most guys who got fish had to work hard for one. Not many risers either. It appears there was a bump on the weekend but I think it's still a week or two from the peak and will fish well right into August.
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Do you miss many hook-ups because the circle hook slips out of the fish's mouth when you set it or do the fish actually hook themselves? I have been thinking about using circle hooks when float fishing for either pink or coho salmon, didn't think anyone would actually use them for lure fishing. Very interesting.
For me, I have noticed a higher percentage in success in landing pink salmon using buzz bomb with circle hook compared to using croc spoons. In addition to beach, I've also used them on tidal Fraser.
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For me, I have noticed a higher percentage in success in landing pink salmon using buzz bomb with circle hook compared to using croc spoons. In addition to beach, I've also used them on tidal Fraser.
I'm sure the landing rate is pretty high as the hook would stick in there pretty well once hooked. What I am more interested in is the initial hook-up, do you find yourself missing a lot of bites? Do you set the hook as you would normally do with a J-style hook, or do you pause a bit and allow the fish to hook itself?
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Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to that question. Usually by the time I feel resistance, its fish on. I haven't been able to tell if a fish bites and then immediately spits out a lure. I don't need to set the circle hook as hard as I would with a J hook. Just a tug to be sure.
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was doing some scoutin near Mamquam bar yesterday and saw 2 adult black bears head to a trail we were just at minutes before. beware the bear haha
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Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to that question. Usually by the time I feel resistance, its fish on. I haven't been able to tell if a fish bites and then immediately spits out a lure. I don't need to set the circle hook as hard as I would with a J hook. Just a tug to be sure.
That's how they are supposed to work. You are also not supposed to set the hook just keep retrieving. I always thought that part would be tough with fly gear as I am so conditioned to pull back to set the hook. I've got some stainless streamer circle hooks - I'll have to try them this year... but I say that every year!
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but I say that every year!
Yep... All these packages of circle hooks are just sitting in my storage. Maybe this year...
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Wookie - be careful cause my oldest should be out casting you by age 10 :P lol
Also if you didn't see it looks like the gate is now open or at least that's what I gathered from Rodneys post about access parking
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Also if you didn't see it looks like the gate is now open or at least that's what I gathered from Rodneys post about access parking
The gate is opened but only a small part of the dyke is open for anglers to park. The rest is still blocked off by concrete blocks. The stretch along the dyke holds about 30 cars (but that depends on where the drivers come from, Richmond... or Vancouver... From Richmond, maybe only 10 cars).
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if the drivers come from Richmond then I can park on top of their small cars or hook them up and pull their car to make room to park ;) lol
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The gate is opened but only a small part of the dyke is open for anglers to park. The rest is still blocked off by concrete blocks. The stretch along the dyke holds about 30 cars (but that depends on where the drivers come from, Richmond... or Vancouver... From Richmond, maybe only 10 cars).
Do the people in Richmond drive large vehicles? Oh! Now I get it, people from Richmond = Bad parking job. That's a good one Rod.
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Richmond drivers don't even dare to drive on that dyke road. too challenging!
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No one has a small car in Richmond. You want to be as big as possible, to survive the parking situation in this city.
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How come when I go to Ikea 90% of what I see is little cars ?
I was just there last week grabbing the last cabinet for our bathroom reno. ended up spending a few mins helping a girl pack 5 sizable boxes into her little BMW, was a good thing she didn't have her child with her or it wouldn't have all fit LoL (there was a booster seat in the car)
Rod - were you taking that pic for your insurance purposes ? :P
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No one has a small car in Richmond. You want to be as big as possible, to survive the parking situation in this city.
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Cause most of them are rich and they can afford big and luxury suv. plus they don't even have to write a driver licence test , They just paid for it. It was on the news before.. ::)
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I would rather fish from shore for pinks. But if the number of people fishing at Furry Creek and in Squamish River gets as busy as the traffic on #3 Road in Richmond, I may have to drive from Squamish to North Vancouver to get the boat and take it up Howe Sound to fish. Seems like a lot of work, but I will have some elbow room.
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The gate is opened but only a small part of the dyke is open for anglers to park. The rest is still blocked off by concrete blocks. The stretch along the dyke holds about 30 cars (but that depends on where the drivers come from, Richmond... or Vancouver... From Richmond, maybe only 10 cars).
Its good that at least part of the dyke road is open during the Pink season. I hope everyone is considerate of local pedestrians or its going get closed again. In 2011, I saw some fishermen drive at high speed along that road leaving pretty housewives in their Lululemon outfits in the dust. Literally. That's no way to win friends in the community we love to fish in. :)
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Cause most of them are rich and they can afford big and luxury suv. plus they don't even have to write a driver licence test , They just paid for it. It was on the news before.. ::)
Shouldn't that Mercedes SUV have back-up sensors for when you get too close to the vehicle behind you? . . . That's just bad driving.
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Shouldn't that Mercedes SUV have back-up sensors for when you get too close to the vehicle behind you? . . . That's just bad driving.
Most of them doesn't even know how to operate the vehicle , and i found a lot of them doesn't even know english, so how do you expect them to read the road sign >:(
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From Squamish pinks -> circle hooks -> Richmond drivers :o
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No one has a small car in Richmond. You want to be as big as possible, to survive the parking situation in this city.
Brighouse Station.
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Minoru Aquatic Centre. ;)
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Minoru Aquatic Centre. ;)
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this is good one ;D ;D
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Ah, Richmond......Where else do you get a friendly wave from a white-gloved hand; (the other hand is texting) as an eighty- thousand dollar lexus driven by someone in a Darth Vader visor careens without warning into your lane inches in front of you. Is there any comfort in being T-boned, sideswiped, or cut in half by such a high-end vehicle? Only if the operator happens to be an orthopaedic surgeon. Sadly though, it's a college student or half-blind Granny propped up on a cushion who was distracted by looking at the pedals to see which is painted green or red. (Don't laugh. A 28-year ICBC employee told me that one)
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I think the biggest problem is that when they buy a 80k car they for some odd reason think these cars drive themselves.the must amusing thing for me is watching them trying to parrel park its almost like a olympic sport.
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Most of them doesn't even know how to operate the vehicle , and i found a lot of them doesn't even know english, so how do you expect them to read the road sign >:(
Don't be so hard on them, for your English isn't exactly stellar. :o
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Don't be so hard on them, for your English isn't exactly stellar. :o
No doubt LOL!!
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Don't be so hard on them, for your English isn't exactly stellar. :o
Well, unless you are an English professor with a PhD then most of our English is not stellar. If you read the post prior to mine then their English is not stellar either.
But, I can read and understand road signs and can drive with due care. 9 out of 10 new immigrants BUY their licenses. I have put in a complaint with the vehicle branch and the police department in regards to the 'Darth Vader' visors. If these people are so afraid of the sun then they should stay home. Then the road will be much safer. Since this is a 'fishing forum' why are we correcting each other's English. The post here is how people drive and their lack of skills. I think that most of them should have a road test every few years. Reason why i know, cause i deal with them every day....
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ANYYYYYWAYYSSS!!! ::) .......anyone run into a early pink in the last few days?
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that's a shame because you are a Chinese as well Rod.. stop ...can't express myself... speechless..
And is it becuase of Chinese, Berry's tackle get to survive the days,., ask around.. haha
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Since this is a 'fishing forum' why are we correcting each other's English.
^^ On the right track...
The post here is how people drive and their lack of skills.
No.
From Squamish pinks -> circle hooks -> Richmond drivers :o
ANYYYYYWAYYSSS!!! ::) .......anyone run into a early pink in the last few days?
Bingo.
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ANYYYYYWAYYSSS!!! ::) .......anyone run into a early pink in the last few days?
lol. Since I derailed it, I should re-rail it. ;) The Squamish River pink salmon fishery is still relatively early. The lower river is seeing fish coming in each day, but they are coming in very small waves, not the constant stream of fish that you usually see during the peak part of the season. Combine that with poor water clarity, your chance of getting to fish consistently is pretty slim.
It's worth a try. If the fishing is bad, at least you get to fish in T-shirt under the sun with a pretty spectacular background.
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that's a shame because you are a Chinese as well Rod.. stop ...can't express myself... speechless..
And is it becuase of Chinese, Berry's tackle get to survive the days,., ask around.. haha
Easy there. I don't have a problem finding some humour out of the current traffic situation in Richmond, because it is a joke. It has been for a few years now. I also don't have a problem recognizing majority of this problem stems from the typical Chinese lax attitude on driving. Chinese people excel in many disciplines, driving is not one of them.
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lol. Since I derailed it, I should re-rail it. ;)
It's all for a good laugh, it's not as funny as a dirty joke but it will do. Even my kids are laughing. Tight line.....
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Well, unless you are an English professor with a PhD then most of our English is not stellar.
Well, no PhD here, only a Master's, and about 20 years of experience teaching English and other work in the field of linguistics. I guess that makes me somewhat qualified. ;)
9 out of 10 new immigrants BUY their licenses.
If you have proof of it, I would like to hear about it. Give me names and recorded instances of unethical conduct and I will make sure this information reaches the relevant authorities. I am a certified, ICBC- approved translator, and I can tell you with full knowledge of the cause that what you state above is false, even worse, defamatory.
In the last several years, a lot of new measures have been put in place to ensure that no driving licenses are "bought". There was a time when a very small number of unethical translators and driving examiners enabled some people to pass their knowledge test. That is a thing of the past, however, so I would be very careful making such statements on a public forum. Unless you can substantiate your claim, I say you better zip it and stick to discussing fishing.
Tight lines,
Milo
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Hey Milo:
I didn't know my fly was open!
Well, now that we have read your resume, I can see that you are not a member of the authorities. I will forward any information that I have to the right people.
Since I have to be up early tomorrow to pound the river, I am going to sleep.
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just wait for that massive fantasy gardens project at 5 and steveson. cant believe they let that project go through before the they did something with the tunnel. born and raised in the ditch. glad to be gone lol
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It's worth a try. If the fishing is bad, at least you get to fish in T-shirt under the sun with a pretty spectacular background.
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[/quote] Nice picture Rod, and not a car from Richmond in sight!
One thing though and this is directed at all of the Spey guys so feel free to slag me from what I'm going to say. This is not an appropriate place for Spey fishing at this time as it is just too crowded. The fish are laying within 40 - 50 feet of the beach most of time so you don't need to cast a mile. All you are doing is taking up a lot of space that could accommodate more anglers. This is a very crowded fishery and is only going to get worse as the run builds. The Mamquam bar has changed this year and the flow of the water is now different so that there is just not as much nice fishing water as there has been in the past. I have been there this year where 17 guys filled up all of the productive water. What is it going to like when there are 80 guys there? I have seen that as well. Not a nice scene. Now throw a couple of guys Spey fishing in the mix and it's going to get unpleasent.Your not going to be making any friends that way. Try and think what the best would be for the experience. Or is it all about me...?
Just so you know, I also Spey fish but not there and not for 3 - 4 lb fish. Use a single hand rod or a gear rod.
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I don't thinks it's a problem. When it gets too busy a lot of the people fishing spey now will have pissed off somewhere else to fish or bring a single-hander instead. Until then if there is no room I can only suggest getting there earlier! Use your common sense people. We got there the other night and there was no room so we waited until someone left.
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One thing though and this is directed at all of the Spey guys so feel free to slag me from what I'm going to say. This is not an appropriate place for Spey fishing at this time as it is just too crowded. The fish are laying within 40 - 50 feet of the beach most of time so you don't need to cast a mile. All you are doing is taking up a lot of space that could accommodate more anglers.
Clearly you're not a member of The Revolution! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NP5_DTXfJs)
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As noted by other posters, the pinks are rolling in slowly but surely. This past Wednesday and Thursday was a hit and miss in the evening. Wednesday evening produced several pinks all carefully released and Thursday I couldn't get the few I saw to bite. Fantastic scenery and a great way to cool down from my blitz hike. I was spey casting with a switch rod - I am ready for the crowds.
Common Sense; Can it be bought? :o
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Clearly you're not a member of The Revolution! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NP5_DTXfJs)
Well that was enjoyable. LMAO. It explains so much. I must have missed the memo on The Revolution!
Common Sense; Can it be bought? :o
Probably not. Who would have thought common sense would have become a super power.
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BKK - honestly I use what method works better. last cycle I was fishing my single hander an getting the odd fish. my shoulder started getting sore wo I went and grabbed the switch rod. turns out I should have been fishing the two hander all day as I was hooking up way more fishing the exact same setup. only difference I can think is that I can mend the line better with the longer rod allowing a slightly deeper presentation.
Usually I find the single hander out fishes the spey there but not always which is why I bring both. I have never fished there when guys feel the need to stand less than 20-30 feet apart. that leaves you ample room to spey cast, you can do it with someone even closer if you know how or know more than the 3 most used casts in the lower mainland
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The gate is still there, which makes for a nice (long-ish) walk to the decent fishing grounds:
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But if you put the time and effort, you get rewarded with this (and a few more):
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They simply don't get any shinier! :D
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Thought that guy looked like some FWR pictures I've seen.
Mine are in patiently awaiting friends for the smoker.....
What a beautiful day out there. ;D
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how long is the walk approximately Milo ?
I think that is a secondary gate because the other one I saw a picture of was different. Im curious about the walk because I will be camping in the area soon with my wife and kids and they would like to join the river fun but may have to limit the amount of "cr*p" we bring with us to the water if the walk is too substantial
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The walk is easy James. I wouldn't load yourself down too much with kids stuff, but it would be an easy for the kids to do. But get there early - it was full by 7am when I showed up.
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The walk is easy James. I wouldn't load yourself down too much with kids stuff, but it would be an easy for the kids to do. But get there early - it was full by 7am when I showed up.
What he said.
With the kids in tow, I say it'll be around 15-20 minutes, more or less.
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I am planning on some camping as well, should I bring bear spray? Where is this gate located? I don't mind the 15-20 minute walk, I am going in about 10 days. Thanks
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I am planning on some camping as well, should I bring bear spray? Where is this gate located? I don't mind the 15-20 minute walk, I am going in about 10 days. Thanks
Bear spray is ALWAYS a good idea, especially in salmon season.
The gate is on the Dyke Road itself, near the WC Railway Heritage Park.
Don't leave valuables in the vehicle; someone got their window smashed yesterday - just heard about it today. >:(
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took my father in-law who just arrive from japan last night out for some pinks and what he ended up catching was a 12 lbs chinook. he was very pleased as was I, he has never caught salmon before so was a good time for him. fishing this morning was pretty slow i didnt catch anything even though yesterday i hooked into atleast 10 fish in an hour.
chinook was caught on a holographic pink/silver buzz-bomb about 30 feet from shore.
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Thanks Milo, very helpful info. Should I just walk until I see people fishing and join them? Or is there a certain distance I have to walk because of a fishing boundary?
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Thanks Milo, very helpful info. Should I just walk until I see people fishing and join them? Or is there a certain distance I have to walk because of a fishing boundary?
No boundaries, just follow the dyke road and then follow the trail off the dyke. It's a couple of kilometers to the mouth of the Mamquam. You'll get the idea when you get there.
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Ok thanks Milo, Is it possible to float fish there? Is the trial easy to see?(would it be better to just follow someone in there?) Do I need a saltwater license? Would I be fishing the Squamish River? Sorry about all the questions, I have never been up there.
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Ok thanks Milo, Is it possible to float fish there? Is the trial easy to see?(would it be better to just follow someone in there?) Do I need a saltwater license? Would I be fishing the Squamish River? Sorry about all the questions, I have never been up there.
1.yes to floatfishing
2.yes to easy to see trail
3.no to saltwater license
4.you can fish either th Squamish or the Mamquam, or both.
Look around, ask questions...people are generally friendly when approached the right way.
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Ok Thanks, but where does that trail take me(Squamish River)? Which river is better? Can I access both rivers from this trail? Thanks again.
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Milo, where is the Squamish River? I'm asking this for Humpy.
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Milo, where is the Squamish River? I'm asking this for Humpy.
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Could you also suggest what sort of line to use and what are the best knots. Also does it make a difference if I buy buzz bombs from Canadian Tire or do the ones from proper fishing stores catch more?
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Milo was saying you can fish either Squamish River or Mamquam River, I was wondering where the trail takes me?
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Milo was saying you can fish either Squamish River or Mamquam River, I was wondering where the trail takes me?
It takes you to the Fraser River
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Don't be mean, guys. >:(
The fellow has never been up that way before.
Humpy, if you follow the dyke to the end, you will reach the Mamquam river. If you take one of the trails on the left hand side, you will see the main stem of the Squamish and people fishing.
Regarding your question which river is better...it's up to the fisherman.
I prefer the Squamish. Others swear by the Mamquam. Fish them both and decide.
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Now it makes sense, Thanks Milo, I will let you know how I do when I get out. I will try to fish both if I can. Again, thanks for all the help Milo.
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Don't be mean, guys. >:(
The fellow has never been up that way before.
Humpy, if you follow the dyke to the end, you will reach the Mamquam river. If you take one of the trails on the left hand side, you will see the main stem of the Squamish and people fishing.
Regarding your question which river is better...it's up to the fisherman.
I prefer the Squamish. Others swear by the Mamquam. Fish them both and decide.
Its not being mean buddy. We both were around before the internet and never had such resources and we did fine. Their is a line and someone asking pin point directions is crossing it IMO
We know the Squamish is no secret but seriously if he took your first directions he would have been fine and found out on his own.
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Sorry, to me Squamish is a secret, I have never been there.
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X3 - beach and Fraser
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X3 - beach and Fraser
x4, I'm all for helping a guy out, but seriously, ever heard of google?: Squamish River Dyke Map (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=squamish+river+dyke+map)
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Yes I have, I have spent many hours trying that without any luck. Thanks for all your help guys, :P
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start looking around when you go fishing and you will find the spots or how a river changes from the time of year, water flow, colour, speed. teach you something each time.
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Its not being mean buddy. We both were around before the internet and never had such resources and we did fine. Their is a line and someone asking pin point directions is crossing it IMO
We know the Squamish is no secret but seriously if he took your first directions he would have been fine and found out on his own.
Agreed. If you want to hold a guys hand over PM or email then fine. But giving such specific info on a public forum where there are so many 100's of lurkers out there is just a bit too much. Why should ppl who contribute zero to this forum be given this sort of potentially useful info??
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Agreed. If you want to hold a guys hand over PM or email then fine. But giving such specific info on a public forum where there are so many 100's of lurkers out there is just a bit too much. Why should ppl who contribute zero to this forum be given this sort of potentially useful info??
Because the more people go to the most popular and easily accessible spots, the fewer people will inquire about and go to the REALLY good spots. It's that simple. ;D
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Because the more people go to the most popular and easily accessible spots, the fewer people will inquire about and go to the REALLY good spots. It's that simple. ;D
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To anyone who frequents this fishery, think its worth my time to stop there on my way home from whistler Monday evening? it's my gfs bday would like to get her her first salmon but don't wana drag her down a trail if there's nothing around or it's a first light type fishery or still too early in the season, never fished that area before and won't have much time to explore and find holes. Plenty of time for pinks on the Fraser just would be cool to get one on her bday. Thanks for any info. :D
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To anyone who frequents this fishery, think its worth my time to stop there on my way home from whistler Monday evening? it's my gfs bday would like to get her her first salmon but don't wana drag her down a trial if there's nothing around or it's a first light type fishery or still too early in the season, never fished that area before and won't have much time to explore and find holes. Plenty of time for pinks on the Fraser just would be cool to get one on her bday. Thanks for any info. :D
Seriously? You want people on an internet forum to guarantee you fish?
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To anyone who frequents this fishery, think its worth my time to stop there on my way home from whistler Monday evening? it's my gfs bday would like to get her her first salmon but don't wana drag her down a trial if there's nothing around or it's a first light type fishery or still too early in the season, never fished that area before and won't have much time to explore and find holes. Plenty of time for pinks on the Fraser just would be cool to get one on her bday. Thanks for any info. :D
Still early, but they are there.
Fish with the tide, you will have better lucky.
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Seriously? You want people on an internet forum to guarantee you fish?
I'm asking if there's fish in the river. Maybe an English lesson would benefit you.
Thanks koko ill give it a shot. Always nice to check out a new flow
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the fish are there, maybe not the full onslaught yet but they are there. there is always slow times throughout the day but usually there is still some fish being picked off. just keeps your eyes peeled on other fisherman as to where the "line" of fish are moving through and it will help narrow your search
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Cool, appreciate it hook 8)
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To anyone who frequents this fishery, think its worth my time to stop there on my way home from whistler Monday evening? it's my gfs bday would like to get her her first salmon but don't wana drag her down a trail if there's nothing around or it's a first light type fishery or still too early in the season, never fished that area before and won't have much time to explore and find holes. Plenty of time for pinks on the Fraser just would be cool to get one on her bday. Thanks for any info. :D
You have a girlfriend who actually likes fishing ?
I have got my wife into pinks and chums a number of times and she couldn't care less- ha, ha. Lucky you :)
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Are wadders needed just curious?
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Im also lucky that my wife likes fishing. she is more for pinks, sockeye than anything else but did join me a lot before our boys were born. I did make the mistake of bringing her steelheading (after giving her fair warning of what was involved) which sort of helped turn her away from fishing because she likes to stay rooted in her spot for the day or move maybe twice to find fish. When it comes to my boys though they seem to have the obsession, my oldest has already told us he just wants to fish his whole life, seemed super excited when I told him he can get a job doing exactly that ;D my youngest is always glued to me when im watching fishing stuff so even though he hasn't actually caught any himself I see potential............less than 2 weeks though and he will be getting his first ever ;D
I wish my old laptop hadn't crashed losing all my pics. I had an awesome photo of my wife catching her very first Chinook and the look on her face when it took its initial blistering run was priceless, the pics after were of strain watching her battle the beast and then the final pic was the first spewing juice while she held it for the pic LoL (fish was even pretty chrome too so not sure why it was doing that)
1son - waders are not needed but remember this is glacial fed so it can be pretty F-ing cold so if having frozen feet bugs you then wear waders. I personally wear socks and wading boots but have also rocked just sandals many times.............yes even at 5am !
HOOK - thinks he needs to get his wife into some pinks to get her back interested and then into some Chinook to really get her back into it
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Thanx Hook wasn't sure if you'd be fishing off rocks,platform,bar or hop in the water and get a bit wet I've never been to the squam so just wanted to make sure what kind of gear I need to bring.
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you only need to stand about ankle deep otherwise your out to far and almost standing on the fishes backs. I hate it when guys go out waist deep and push the fish way out. I get them to back up and bang catch a fish right infront of them !
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You have a girlfriend who actually likes fishing ?
I have got my wife into pinks and chums a number of times and she couldn't care less- ha, ha. Lucky you :)
haha well im yet to get her into a fish so shes losing patience.. pink season should do trick tho ;D
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LOL sweet thanx again for the tips Hook
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you only need to stand about ankle deep otherwise your out to far and almost standing on the fishes backs. I hate it when guys go out waist deep and push the fish way out. I get them to back up and bang catch a fish right infront of them !
Ain't that the truth! :o
One of my pet peeves for sure, especially when the deep wading dude is just downstream from me.
All of you fishing the Squamish for the first time...you DON'T need to wade beyond your knees. Pinks travel in shallow water.
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Ain't that the truth! :o...you DON'T need to wade beyond your knees. Pinks travel in shallow water.
If that were true, then why are the spey fisherman up to their nipples pounding 100ft of line? :-X
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I guess a pair of shorts and sandals would work for the squamish. Are both the squamish and the mamquam fresh water, do I only need the freshwater license. Thanks
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a few cycles back it wasn't stupid crowded so I decided to screw around wading out deeper to see what would happen. I figured that the pinks would just be swimming between my legs but instead they pushed way out into the hard current and everyone up river from me stop catching fish completely. I waded back after a few minutes of standing there to see if they would come back into shallow water, they didn't ! I then waded completely out of the water and fished from dry land, while I was catching fish still it wasn't nearly as often as when I was out to my ankle/mid shin. My fly line also kept getting caught on the damn rocks which was more then frustrating.
when the fishing is good I can often be found screwing with things whether it be flies, technique, or like this wading right into the fishes path if I can. I remember fishing pinks on the Harrison years ago where my dad and I stood literally in the swimming lane of the fish casting down river, let the fly sit for a few seconds(to let it sink a bit), do a few quick strips and bang fish every cast !
Please be mindful of the people fishing around you and yourself. If you wade into a travel lane for the fish they will choose another one unless there isn't another one. I have seen people do this (especially on the Squamish) in hopes they can intercept more fish than others which just isn't the case. Infact the people downriver from you will normally be the ones catching more because some fish will actually turn downstream because of the obstruction giving those down from you second chances. Only time this has ever worked was the example I gave, the fish had no choice but to swim through/past us otherwise they wouldn't have
those guys obviously aren't paying attention. I fish a light spey for pinks as well as a single hander. I don't think I have ever cast more than 60-70' for them in that river. I had my family members using light spinning tackle with bobber and wool setups and they were casting maybe 30' out. fly guys have to cast further to allow the fly to sink into the zone. Why some spey guys would stand so deep might be because of their lack of knowledge, they are totally new to it and don't know better, or who the hell knows why
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Im also lucky that my wife likes fishing. she is more for pinks, sockeye than anything else but did join me a lot before our boys were born. I did make the mistake of bringing her steelheading (after giving her fair warning of what was involved) which sort of helped turn her away from fishing because she likes to stay rooted in her spot for the day or move maybe twice to find fish. When it comes to my boys though they seem to have the obsession, my oldest has already told us he just wants to fish his whole life, seemed super excited when I told him he can get a job doing exactly that ;D my youngest is always glued to me when im watching fishing stuff so even though he hasn't actually caught any himself I see potential............less than 2 weeks though and he will be getting his first ever ;D
I wish my old laptop hadn't crashed losing all my pics. I had an awesome photo of my wife catching her very first Chinook and the look on her face when it took its initial blistering run was priceless, the pics after were of strain watching her battle the beast and then the final pic was the first spewing juice while she held it for the pic LoL (fish was even pretty chrome too so not sure why it was doing that)
1son - waders are not needed but remember this is glacial fed so it can be pretty F-ing cold so if having frozen feet bugs you then wear waders. I personally wear socks and wading boots but have also rocked just sandals many times.............yes even at 5am !
HOOK - thinks he needs to get his wife into some pinks to get her back interested and then into some Chinook to really get her back into it
Im the opposite, Im glad my wife doesn't like fishing! My chance to get away and be with the boys. ;)
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Yes, Humpy, a pair of shorts and sandals will work just fine. You won't last long, though. The water is COLD there.
And yes, you only need a freshwater license to fish the Squamish and Mamquam, but I suggest you get a tidal license, too, as the best pink fishing will be happening in the lower Fraser river in a few weeks. Don't forget to buy the salmon tags if you plan to keep salmon. It is illegal to retain them without a tag.
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If that were true, then why are the spey fisherman up to their nipples pounding 100ft of line? :-X
Those who do it don't know better. Just because they swing a double hander doesn't mean they know what they are doing.
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should I take some waders, so I can last longer in that water.
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should I take some waders, so I can last longer in that water.
Waders will just cause you to over heat (although cooler weather is on the way), which probably why those spey guys are out there (trying to get cool). Better to try wading boots and a pair of wool socks, I had no problem standing in there for hours in shorts.
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Ok, wading boots, wool socks, and shorts will do. Thanks for your help Sandman.
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Don't forget stilts...
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Don't forget stilts...
and rod ;D ;D ;D
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Don't you mean stilts and a spear? What do you mean by stilts though, Rod?
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I get Friday off Finally! I want to get out and wet the line and try my luck on some pinks. I live in richmond so Im going to be driving out to west van to fish from shore. Can i Fish anywhere from shore for pinks from lighthouse park and further up towards horseshoe bay or not? the reason I am asking this is because I cant understand these sections and subsections on regulations BEFORE anyone laughs I even called the steveston office and the guy that was trying to help me get some answers seemed just as confused as I did to answer my question as to where I can fish there and where I cant. By the end of it he said he would find out and call me back and I never got a call back. I just dont want to be fishing where I shouldnt be But to be honest why cant Fisheries make it easier for people to understand the rules and boundaries.
anyways any help would be great Im not asking for any specific locations but like general ideas points where I am allowed to fish from shore in the west van point atkinson area I suppose. :)
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take the exit at Furry Creek golf course. go up to the T in the road, go left back over the freeway. then get yourself back onto the freeway heading back towards Vancouver, pull off the road at the opening next to the train tracks and park there without blocking the small road across the tracks (that could get you towed). Then grab your stuff and head out towards the ocean, once you reach the waters edge you will see people fishing. go and join them ;D
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LOL Dont mean to be rude but that sounds like you just guided me right into the gongshow. I wasnt really asking for a exact spot just wondering where I can fish and cant like a general idea. I prefer to be away from the crowds to enjoy the scenery so I will be walking to find a secluded spot.
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He's giving you a location where he won't be fishing. So Hook which hole should I be fishing on the Squamish or Mamquam? I want the same detailed directions you just gave the previous guy ;D
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lol, just a question for all of you here, what do you prefer to use for pinks, spoons, jigs?
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I gave him that location because its a pretty productive beach, there is a lot of shoreline there to allow you to get away from others, especially if you choose to cross through the extremely slippery creek and fish the other side of it which not a lot of people do. Trust me I wasn't leading you to somewhere I don't fish, I fish there but haven't yet this year unfortunately. I also fish it from high tide down because I know how to meander my way along a narrow shallow area that gets me way out near the drop off but only knee deep. If I take more then 3 steps backwards im over me head !!
Fic - just follow the parade of cars into the Squamish valley, you will find the areas pretty easily :P
I don't fish in any secret spots for pinks, there are plenty of them and I catch my share for sure. I also enjoy seeing others having fun around me, meeting new people and even helping out the newbies get into their first salmon when I notice them struggling. Got a nice young woman into her first salmon ever last cycle, first I had to help her with casting, then showing/explaining where the fish were and how to present the fly. Took maybe an hour until she got the hang of it, was actually the best part of my day watching her excitement when she first hooked up and then landed the first one.
HOOK - isn't crowd shy when it comes to salmon fishing ;)
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lol, just a question for all of you here, what do you prefer to use for pinks, spoons, jigs?
Pinks are not difficult to catch. Spoons, spinners, jigs, flies all work. Don't be asking specific spoons, spinners or colours :D
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here is a neat selection of pink lure ideas
http://riptidefish.com/best-lures-for-catching-pink-humpy-salmon-in-rivers/
my experience is technique, where then what lure is the importance tree for pink hook ups.
I like small brass and pink spoons myself...
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I wasn't looking for a specific spoon, just looking for others opinions, I always take a little of everything with me.
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I wasn't looking for a specific spoon, just looking for others opinions, I always take a little of everything with me.
Simply, try what you like to try
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does that mean I can use dynamite sticks, electrifying nets, and bow/arrows to fish with too !!
Yaki said I can use what I like :P
Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!
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does that mean I can use dynamite sticks, electrifying nets, and bow/arrows to fish with too !!
Yaki said I can use what I like :P
Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!
you have reassured my sanity
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Lol, you guys sure are funny.
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forget hero shots, I straight moleste my pinks !!! LoL
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Yo big boy, you're getting too excited there. This is a family site, some photos are best shared only among friends.
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does that mean I can use dynamite sticks, electrifying nets, and bow/arrows to fish with too !!
Yaki said I can use what I like :P
Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgKzOClbW2M
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Yo big boy, you're getting too excited there. This is a family site, some photos are best shared only among friends.
I agree, and the fish should not be handled like they are your personal boy toy. Keep that cupcakes in the bedroom. Or your fetish to yourself.
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that picture was my buddy and I just being stupid one day at Furry Creek. that fish is plenty dead, I was actually about to clean it and bag it. I think both of us was running on no sleep meaning we had been awake well over 24hrs which tends to make people get weird. This was also 2009 so it was awhile ago :o
HOOK - There is more stupid pics but I cant share cause daddy (Rodney) said so :-X
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..and spending all afternoon in the hot sun tossing buzz bombs does this to some people..
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human kill pink. pink kill human :'(
..and spending all afternoon in the hot sun tossing buzz bombs does this to some people..
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww31/elf773/1002858_10153081757025472_757242453_n.jpg) (http://s703.photobucket.com/user/elf773/media/1002858_10153081757025472_757242453_n.jpg.html)
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OK, unlike the BJ pic which wasn't in the best taste, this is actually hilarious and very well done!
..and spending all afternoon in the hot sun tossing buzz bombs does this to some people..
(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww31/elf773/1002858_10153081757025472_757242453_n.jpg) (http://s703.photobucket.com/user/elf773/media/1002858_10153081757025472_757242453_n.jpg.html)
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OK, unlike the BJ pic which wasn't in the best taste, this is actually hilarious and very well done!
Agreed pretty funny!
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OK, unlike the BJ pic which wasn't in the best taste, this is actually hilarious and very well done!
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X3. This is funny!
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The BJ pic is in poor taste. Rodney should delete it.
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I agree 110%! So SAD its come down to this!
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The BJ pic is in poor taste. Rodney should delete it.
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I noticed some people asking about lures colors etc so I just thought I would add an observation I had fishing on the Squamish this Thursday. The first thing I noticed was the visibility was barely six inches so I assumed I had to use a nice flashy vibrating pink Colorado blade to get any luck.
For a while it was clear I had made a really good call because I was getting into all the fish while the fly fishermen around me were getting zip. I would just let the blades drift below me and hold them in the current and bang! What a blast. After about an hour of this it stopped completely and I was getting zip but I noticed the fly guys getting into fish all of a sudden. Figuring I could imitate them I switched to a little purple jig under a float and, contrary to my theory, they were hammering the jigs.
It blows me away how they can possibly see these in such poor visibility and it completely blows away my theory that I was going to do best with spinners. (I chose jigs with lots of purple in them figuring they would see that better than pink with such poor visibility) Every time I go out fishing I realize how much I have to learn..there is always something new and even these very aggressive pinks can be fickle turning on and off to different presentations throughout the day.
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can anyone tell me if the pinks are still around furry creek?
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Nope they left about an hour ago, too late
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Lol, they are still around.
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Still there but getting slow :'(
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Anyone know why the squamish river's clarity is poor .theres been no rain for a while
2 years ago at this time the river was ussually showing atleast a few feet visibility , strange
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High water and low vis are not unusual for the Squamish until well into August
Add to that the brutal logging and developments upstream and low visibility becomes the new normal.
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The Squamish is a large glacial river and as the glaciers receed in the upper watershed the glacial till that was under the ice is now exposed and the melting water washes it downstream into the river. This is why the river do's not clear until the high country starts to lock up with the cold weather in the fall. Haveing the Squamish dirty in the summer is normal but the silt amounts vary depending on how hot it is. Hot weather makes it worse and the forcast for the next week is for hot weather. The Squamish is not going to clear until October as per normal.
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Actually it rained heavily two nights in a row in Squamish last week. Prior to those rains the river was quite clear...I live in Squamish and can confirm that it rained so heavily that I couldn't see anything while driving.
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no wonder I saw nothing but chalky white water last Thursday. Where did the rain come from if Vancouver is as sunny as can be?
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Any Pinks left around Furry Creek?
Was not willing to put up with the crowds on the weekend, was thinking of heading out super early Thursday morning. Anyone heard any recent word from there if any fish are still around?
Am I better off hitting up Squamish or Ambleside?
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There were fish at furry creek yesterday. I even briefly hooked into a spring from shore.
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Awesome! How many pinks did you hook into?
Also, is there a specific tide that is better there?
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My dad went to furry the past 3 days and hooked into at least 5 each trip. thought id just add more people to the gong show.
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The Gong show is inevitable with so many people going. Just take it easy when somebody hooks your line by accident. The Pinks comes and goes so you could get lots of action for a while and nothing for a long time.
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½y plans were to make the short drive from Squamish to fish at Furry Creek on Sunday morning. When I saw the amount of cars I decided to keep driving into N. Van to get the boat instead. On the way down I remembered this nice stretch of beach in W. Van where I flyfished with great results before moving to Squamish. Thought I would maybe have a look and maybe give that a try. Not many people out fishing when I arrived which was about 7:30am. During the falling tide and saw a few jumping, then some more porpoise within casting range. Managed to get the fly in front of the fish moving by and had some success. Landed 3 pink salmon and lost another 3. This was all in about 1½ hours of fishing. After a fairly successful morning without crowds, I decided not to take the boat out. (gas too costly). Good Luck. Still lots of pinks headed up Squamish way.
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^^ Was that you in the green hat and brown waders at Suicide Bend?
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This weekend fishing pinks should be interesting. Sold out camp ground right near the Mamquam and thousands of potential anlgers ::)
http://squamishfestival.com/p/frequently-asked-questions
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How can the Mamquam and the small area around and below its confluence with the Squamish handle thousands of fishermen? It will be the gong show of all time. I will stick to the ocean for pinks.
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^^ Was that you in the green hat and brown waders at Suicide Bend?
Are these pinks at Suicide Bend heading for the Squamish or they are the Indian River stock? It is not the Howe Sound anymore.
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Had a great time on the flow, thanks for all the help(Milo). Caught my limit on all days, some nice females that provided me with some roe for the fall salmon season. Time to get some roe ready. Water clarify was not the greatest but if you use bright pink lures, spoons or jigs they will bite. Anyways that's my report.
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Had a great time on the flow, thanks for all the help(Milo). Caught my limit on all days, some nice females that provided me with some roe for the fall salmon season. Time to get some roe ready. Water clarify was not the greatest but if you use bright pink lures, spoons or jigs they will bite. Anyways that's my report.
Awesome! Glad I could help. :)
Pay it forward now. ;)
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Heads up if you are thinking of going up up that way, Squamish Live is on this weekend, traffic was backed up beyond Furry Creek on my way back from work.
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If your looking for pinks to bring home IGA Marketplace was selling them for about 6 bucks per fish. Head off and cleaned. ;D
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If your looking for pinks to bring home IGA Marketplace was selling them for about 6 bucks per fish. Head off and cleaned. ;D
I've seen cheaper at SuperStore ;)
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Tried this fishery for the first time this weekend. Lot of fun! ;D
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COs were out there this weekend, and I personally witnessed a few tickets being written...will people never learn?
Overheard:
"But officer, I have a license."
"Yes, sir, you do, but you don't have a fresh water salmon tag. It is required if you are retaining fish."
"Is that some new rule?"
" No sir, it has been in place for well over 20 years. "
Beeks. ::)
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COs were out there this weekend, and I personally witnessed a few tickets being written...will people never learn?
Overheard:
"But officer, I have a license."
"Yes, sir, you do, but you don't have a fresh water salmon tag. It is required if you are retaining fish."
"Is that some new rule?"
" No sir, it has been in place for well over 20 years. "
Beeks. ::)
I'm glad that there are some people checking at least in the very busy spots. I've been fishing in BC for only 1 year but I've never seen an officer on the river.
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COs were out there this weekend, and I personally witnessed a few tickets being written...will people never learn?
Was fishing with Tom L. today, Milo, and he saw this one group of 5 people take fish out to their vehicle twice and kept coming back for me. He mentioned that someone said something to them and another fellow phoned the CO's but they kept doing what they were doing....no CO's came unfortunately.
Just seeing fishing constantly be dragged to the dry part of the shore line for release is enough to raise my blood temp.
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Was fishing with Tom L. today, Milo, and he saw this one group of 5 people take fish out to their vehicle twice and kept coming back for me. He mentioned that someone said something to them and another fellow phoned the CO's but they kept doing what they were doing....no CO's came unfortunately.
Just seeing fishing constantly be dragged to the dry part of the shore line for release is enough to raise my blood temp.
That's unfortunate. I've been actually stopped in my car for a search 2 weekends ago as I was driving away from the river. CO did a U-turn and flashed the lights and I pulled over. I didn't catch any fish that day but it is the luck of the draw. Sometimes the poachers get searched and sometimes law abiding anglers get searched. I've been checked by CO 3 times this pink season already.
I've also seen people use nets to catch pinks (and no, they weren't FN and they weren't Asian :) ).
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That's unfortunate. I've been actually stopped in my car for a search 2 weekends ago as I was driving away from the river. CO did a U-turn and flashed the lights and I pulled over. I didn't catch any fish that day but it is the luck of the draw. Sometimes the poachers get searched and sometimes law abiding anglers get searched. I've been checked by CO 3 times this pink season already.
I've also seen people use nets to catch pinks (and no, they weren't FN and they weren't Asian :) ).
Pesky Europeans! ;)
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Co's were there every day at different time frames this weekend. my dad actually got a ticket because he forgot his license in his waders back home LoL that's a painful $115 lesson !!
all other charges will be waived when he produces a copy of his license with tags showing he owned one at the time ticket was written. the charge he still has to pay is "failure to produce a license"
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I've also seen people use nets to catch pinks (and no, they weren't FN and they weren't Asian :) ).
If you are referring to anglers using landing nets on the Squamish and Furry Creek, there's nothing wrong with that. Many anglers are not comfortable landing a fish without a net.
But if you are talking about setting nets across the flow to CATCH fish, I truly hope you reported it. If you just walk away and do nothing about it, you become part of the problem.
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If you are referring to anglers using landing nets on the Squamish and Furry Creek, there's nothing wrong with that. Many anglers are not comfortable landing a fish without a net.
But if you are talking about setting nets across the flow to CATCH fish, I truly hope you reported it. If you just walk away and do nothing about it, you become part of the problem.
Trying to catch with a net. No rod. Clearly if they were using a net to land a fish that they caught with a rod, that's not a violation.
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Whats the Squamish river like for jet boats?
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There are some Youtube vids of a commercial operation that does trips mainly on the Upper Squamish-there are smaller jets on the lower river I imagine that launching could be an issue.
FWIW-took a tour group up to the Bailey Bridge on the Cheakamus Monday to show them some Pinks heading upstream-people from Oz & Germany-they were amazed.
That's something I'll be doing a lot more of in future.
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Broke a rod today on the mam, chromer pink too was an idiot and high sticked my 13 foot pin Rod wasn't paying attention did land well over 40 pinks today though.
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Broke a rod today on the mam, chromer pink too was an idiot
Live and learn. Hopefully you have a warranty. If not, I find they are fairly easily repairable, especially if broken near the tip. Scissors and super glue does the trick; the rod is shorter, but just as strong, if not stronger. (this coming from a guy who snapped the tip of his cheapo 6wt high sticking a smaller trout in a belly boat and just used that same repaired rod to land >10 pinks on the Squamish, at least one of which was a big, fouled male).
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I'm gonna try to find a new tip section or just buy a new rod altogether.
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Broke a rod today on the mam, chromer pink too was an idiot and high sticked my 13 foot pin Rod wasn't paying attention did land well over 40 pinks today though.
You are not the only one. I have broken two rods in my life, and they were both on first day of pink salmon fishing. I never broke a rod in steelhead or other salmon fishing. I think the small size of pinks let us lower our guard and we get hammered for the mistake. :-)
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40-50 fish in a day as opposed to maybe a fish a trip in the steelhead season theres a better chance of breaking a rod on pinks given the numbers.
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I broke my two 8wt fly rods in two weeks trying to grab the line to wet land pinks on the vedder two years agago.
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Very high, very dirty.
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Very high, very dirty.
When you come down have a bath. ;D
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Today was the biggest gong show I've seen so far. Ridiculus number of people.
I need to start hiking and learn the river so I can find my nice spot away from the crowd. :P
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Today was the biggest gong show I've seen so far. Ridiculus number of people.
I think the Fraser Closure had some impact on it. Can the lower Squamish even fit all the Fraser River anglers?
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I think the Fraser Closure had some impact on it. Can the lower Squamish even fit all the Fraser River anglers?
Yeah good point, I haven't thought about that. I'm sure that made a difference.
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Today was the biggest gong show I've seen so far. Ridiculus number of people.
Zero vis and a million people = some very poor practices. I saw very few fish that weren't obviously snagged, the ones that didn't hit the the sand and rocks tail first were likely flossed. Fly or gear didn't matter, most people were casting heavy presentations 90 degrees to the lane of travel. Also, loved the irony of a guy dragging a pink in by the hump and his buddy asking "what you using?", the reply "<insert random fly/lure>, they are smashing it."
I hear DFO has been handing out tickets for poor fish handling lately; they could have paid for this years overtime if they came by today.
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today was quite dangerous. the bar quickly submerged underwater. almost barely made it back to land, wonder how the rest of the guys did. i managed to get a couple of nice chrome fish in the middle of all those.....pinks....literally.......chaotic fishing. seal come by, or someone spook a school.......god i hate it when they all bolt towards your path of your fly.
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Has the water got dirty with the increase of water ? Would it be wise to head out there tomorrow or better to wait a couple days .
Thankyou
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Has the water got dirty with the increase of water ? Would it be wise to head out there tomorrow or better to wait a couple days .
Thankyou
Depend what you are looking for. Even with high dirty water people were still catching fish.
The advantage in going in a couple of days is that it won't be weekend and there would be less people. ( still lots, just not quite the same gong show)
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It was a gong show for sure, and lots of fish. Still some fresh chrome ones to have. Yes, the water was rising and we had to leave the bar and barely made it. Don't go there if you don't have chest wader. Fly fishing was the ticket. Drift guys had a lot of foul hookups.
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Fly fishing was the ticket. Drift guys had a lot of foul hookups.
I don't think that is a fair comment. Yes with a fly rod and a floating line you could pass the fly over the school of fish without snagging, but 90% of the fly fisherman I saw had heavy sink tips and long leaders. Best case the fish comes in snagged in the mouth, but just as many come in with the hook in the back. Drift guys with a short float actually have the same option of keeping the presentation above the fish, it always comes done to intent or lack of understanding. You can snag with anything. What disappoints me is when the ratio is heavily weighted to more snagged then fair hooked and "anglers" don't bother to make any changes to their setup. That should result in a ticket and forfeiture of gear.
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i swung bright coloured colorado's under a float yesterday and almost all my hookups were in the tip of the yap, weds i got over 40 all in the mouth in 3 hours water clarity was much better then though.
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I don't fly fish.......what does anyone think is the best method right now?
I've been out a few times, chucking spoons and spinners with poor luck in the murky water. Floats with a pink fly? Spinners under a float?
I'm tempted to run a sized down bar fishing setup with sping and glows.....would this work for pinks in the squamish? Never tried it before.
Part of me really just wants to legimately out fish the abundance of snaggers right now.
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Is it worth going to the squamish or even the mamquam from 2 hours away? Is Water Vis that bad?
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Is it worth going to the squamish or even the mamquam from 2 hours away? Is Water Vis that bad?
Was wondering the exact same thing.......I hear furry creek has slowed to a crawl so squamish is the ticket, but I couldn't but a hit on spoons or spinners last week. I hear vis has got worse.
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I was there on Sat aug 17. The water level was high and had very poor visibility, less than 6 inch. There were fish but not many hook ups due to very poor visibility.
For people who fish with a gear setup, a set up with a small spin and glo seems to work well also. My buddy has had a good success.
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I think I have some pink spin n glows, they have a pink body with some white spinners, I might try with those, they will create some vibrations and hopefully trigger a bite? Or even a bright blade. I'm still going to try my luck.
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Skunked out. none caught, no bites, fish arent there. dont bother going.
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fish arent there.
Didn't you hear, Dan? The fish finished up spawning yesterday. You have to wait for them to show up in the Fraser now.
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I don't think that is a fair comment. Yes with a fly rod and a floating line you could pass the fly over the school of fish without snagging, but 90% of the fly fisherman I saw had heavy sink tips and long leaders. Best case the fish comes in snagged in the mouth, but just as many come in with the hook in the back. Drift guys with a short float actually have the same option of keeping the presentation above the fish, it always comes done to intent or lack of understanding. You can snag with anything. What disappoints me is when the ratio is heavily weighted to more snagged then fair hooked and "anglers" don't bother to make any changes to their setup. That should result in a ticket and forfeiture of gear.
I was there yesterday with the fly rod and, normally, I would agree that flies are the ticket with pinks. During the previous week, I couldn't keep the pinks off my flies. Yesterday was a different story. No matter what tip I used, I foul hooked way too many fish. Just picking up the line to cast would result in foul hooking fish. Not fun at all. Yes, I did manage to catch fish hooked in the mouth, and we all got our limit of chrome bright pinks. But the visibility was so poor, with lots of debris floating downriver.
My buddy (Stratocaster) also brought a drift rod with him, and after fly fishing he tried the drift rod with a fly under a float. He did pretty good - hooking many fish in the mouth; however, we suspect these fish may have been flossed. And yes, even short floating with the drift rod resulted in foul hooked fish! With visibility as poor as it was, I find it difficult to believe fish were biting but I guess you never really know. I would present my flies in the same drift, only to feel fish on the line (not biting). I was careful not to set the hook unless I felt the fish "mouthing" the fly (like a trout bite). Lost way too many flies breaking off on fish.
The water came right up, and it was a bit sketchy getting out. Be careful if you go out there! :)
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Is it worth going to the squamish or even the mamquam from 2 hours away? Is Water Vis that bad?
Stop asking the same question. The information is already available throughout the entire thread.
And people, don't reward bad/lazy behaviours.
I'm all for sharing information, but seriously...
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Skunked out. none caught, no bites, fish arent there. dont bother going.
Yes in particularly next Friday. Next Friday no one should bother going because there will be no fish at all ;)
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I don't fly fish.......what does anyone think is the best method right now?
I've been out a few times, chucking spoons and spinners with poor luck in the murky water. Floats with a pink fly? Spinners under a float?
I'm tempted to run a sized down bar fishing setup with sping and glows.....would this work for pinks in the squamish? Never tried it before.
Part of me really just wants to legimately out fish the abundance of snaggers right now.
A small/light pink blade under a float works very well. Pink wool worked "ok" too.
I did some test with large spoon but no much luck. I think they are better match for the beach or the Fraser when it opens.
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Drag free drift with a jig under a float is the best way to never floss a fish. Even a 12" leader with unweighted or buoyant fly/hook will floss fish if they are packed together.
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90% fly fisherman on the river it seemed, yet they fowl hooked the majority of the fish due to mass numbers and dirty water, unless the hump grew a mouth and bites flys...
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What is causing the poor vis? Is it the rain?
Still not super familiar with river fishing.....how long/what conditions does it take for the river to start to clear a bit after it murks up?
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90% fly fisherman on the river it seemed, yet they fowl hooked the majority of the fish due to mass numbers and dirty water, unless the hump grew a mouth and bites flys...
yup. too easy to snag em. one you figure out how deep they are though, you can avoid lots. had 15 legit tug my line on the retrieve bites, with about 10 snagged. my wife did pretty good. about the same numbers too. just gotta try to let the fly slide past them when you feel the bumps and not hook set. No chrome for us though. one decent doe, but it was too early to bonk and leave her sit for hours.
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A small/light pink blade under a float works very well. Pink wool worked "ok" too.
I did some test with large spoon but no much luck. I think they are better match for the beach or the Fraser when it opens.
What kind of water were you fishing in? I would imagine slow moving water you should get some hooks ups with a spoon. Faster moving water, you would be better off with float fishing.
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I took took out my spinning, pin and switch rods last outing and kept moving back and fourth. Could not swing spoons without foul hooking too many fish, only 3 were legit of the 8 hooked on a spoon. Fly fishing with a floating tip produced about 70% legit hook ups (probaby 40 fish hooked with a few completely swallowing the fly) and not one fish snagged on the pin. Floating jigs, blades and the killer (dic nites) was great. Classic nose hook set every time. Leader was about a foot and a half to two feet and my float was slid right up to my pencil lead, similar to how I float fish for chum.
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What kind of water were you fishing in? I would imagine slow moving water you should get some hooks ups with a spoon. Faster moving water, you would be better off with float fishing.
Yes I agree, the areas I fished so far were relatively fast runs.
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oh look it's one of those pinks flossed in murky water with 12 inches of leader! (sarcasm)
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What kind of water were you fishing in? I would imagine slow moving water you should get some hooks ups with a spoon. Faster moving water, you would be better off with float fishing.
fishing beneath the train bridge on the mam.