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SnaggedADuck

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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2008, 05:36:33 PM »
i was refering to a positivly identifying a pinook or coho cross.  As far as checking under the gill plate for springs, that has failed me in the past. I have caught jacks and it looks red or marble and then you end up with white.  I read about checking the flesh at the anal and it seems to work better but people look at you weird when you catch a fish and inspect the anal.... :-\
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Jonny 5

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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2008, 07:20:16 PM »
I will do the study,  all you have to do is give me a couple of each... 

2 red, 2 marble, and 2 smoked whites.  I will be in vancouver over the weekend ;)
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2009, 06:23:56 PM »
sorry to bring this up but I found this cool picture I thought I'd share...



Anyone care to guess what it is?  8)
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2009, 06:44:11 PM »
looks like a sock
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2009, 07:06:18 PM »
Looks straight up like a sockey, but if I had to guess, under the assumption its s hybrid, I'd say pink/sockeye cross.  The head is a little pink-shaped (although sockeye and pink are similar), the scales look smaller than sockeye and a more like pink-size.
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2009, 07:27:07 PM »
Coho/pink cross? Still say it looks like a straight up sockeye too though, maybe a sock/coho?
Also saw a coho/chinook landed out on the Island 3 weeks ago.
White gums/black mouth, blood red meat. Heavily spotted springs spots down the back and whole tail yet a very dark/square tail.
I could'nt decide what it was, at first I thought chinook for sure just by the body shape and head but it had ALOT of coho characteristics as well.
Shoulda grabbed a picture...
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2009, 08:21:29 PM »
Sorry, but why does the movie Deliverance come to mind...... ;D
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2009, 10:16:21 PM »
Its actually a "chumpie" a cross between a chum and a pink  ;)
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2009, 10:47:20 PM »
Quote from: Bassonator on November 02, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Sorry, but why does the movie Deliverance come to mind...... ;D

LMAO  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE
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Re: Cross breeding Salmon
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2009, 12:55:58 PM »
Quote from: milo on September 16, 2008, 10:56:13 PM
If you are referring to how you can tell whether a chinook is marbled before you cut it, you can't. It is a lottery.

However, I have been testing a theory lately, and I would like to ask members for input on this one.

All springs have white beliies in the ocean, and it is pretty darn impossible to determine what colour their flesh is unless you kill them and cut them.

However, I have found that red springs in rivers tend to get a sort of a "copperish" tinge to their bellies. Whites, OTOH, get a sort of a greyish tinge to their bellies instead. I have been able to determine the colour of a river caught chinook's flesh with close to 100% accuracy lately. All this, of course, applies to fresh fish which is still more or less chrome on the outside. Boots are easily identifiable, as red springs become of a brown-brick colour, whereas whites turn all sorts of shades of olive, gray - even black (yuck!).

Please keep this in mind and let me know if my theory has any validity.
Thanks,

Milo

Nope, the early Chilliwack red springs are Upper Fraser fish broodstock.


My understanding they are Bowron River fish.

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