Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?  (Read 3317 times)

kodiak

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« on: July 24, 2010, 05:58:39 PM »

I am going to head out to Fraser around Hope to try my hand at bar fishing for chinook. Hopefully I can find a spot away from where folks are bottom bouncing.  My question is wether a spin'n'glo is good enough or if I should also be adding some roe to my presentation? 
Logged

vancook

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 675
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 06:36:25 PM »

From what I've been told it all depends on the rivers water clarity...if its very silty the fish won't see you spin glow unless it bumps into, adding roe wont hurt as it provides scent..
I could be wrong but I think thats about right
Logged

gman

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 357
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 06:47:37 PM »

In the fast current in that area, the roe will not stay on well. Just use the Spin'n'glo.,
Logged

BNF861

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 503
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2010, 08:20:54 PM »

Spin'n'glo without bait worked just fine today  ;D
Logged

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14766
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2010, 09:29:35 PM »

For this time of the year, definitely spin-n-glow without bait will do. Some people spray scent onto their spin-n-glow. In the last couple of weeks of August, putting some roe onto the hook with the spin-n-glow works really well for chinook jacks.

Kype

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 203
  • Try the fly!
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2010, 08:14:57 AM »

As a complete newbie to the Fraser and Bar fishing - would heavy spoons work too?  ???

Am guessing like most major rivers the majority of the salmon run up the sides of the river, avoiding the heaviest of the current, and are thus easily within casting and effective fishing length from the bank.

Thanks!
Logged
Try the fly!

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14766
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »

Spoon fishing is best done at creek mouths or places where current is weaker than at where barfishing usually takes place.

Even though the spots where barfishing takes place already has current that is not as strong as where the rest of the Fraser is, it is still fairly fast. That's why the amount of weight used is still 14, 16oz. Combining that and the low visibility, chances of a chinook salmon encountering the spoon are pretty small.

Check out the visibility and current in this video: http://www.fishingwithrod.com/video/barfishing03.html

Kype

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 203
  • Try the fly!
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2010, 10:22:25 PM »

Hi Rodney,

Thanks for the heads up, you can slow the swing of the spoon and control the depth by 'high sticking' your rod and using a 'bouncing betty' heavy weight used in a paternoster rig - used to sometimes do this in Scotland when the water was too blown out for the fly.  Nonetheless I hear you and will search out the creek mouths or back eddy's together with the masses!   ;D

Really keen to try out my 'snagless' hook on the back of the spoon to see if I can get deep down and not foul either a fish or the bottom - no true angler likes to foul hook a fish - an awful experience!!   :(

Tightlines.
Logged
Try the fly!

gofishon

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 110
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 12:14:49 AM »

Hey Kype, save your spoons for next year. They are a favourite for Pinks in the Fraser. We see them hit the river in late August through September on odd numbered years. Lots of info on FWR site for that fun, family friendly fishery ;D. Good luck.
Logged

armytruck

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 750
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2010, 07:19:43 AM »

Correct me if I'm wrong ,I don't have the regs in front of me . But , is there not a bait ban in effect at this time of the season on the upper Fraser .  ???
Logged
"Everyone ought to believe in something;  I believe I'll go fishing."

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14766
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 08:30:06 AM »

No bait ban. Bait ban usually comes in effect in September and part of October when no salmon fishing is in effect.

armytruck

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 750
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 12:35:19 PM »

Thanks  Rodney ,   I recall a few years ago there was a bait ban due to protecting a particular Coho run that was moving through with the springs and sockeye . Or was that some study that year  ??? . never mind   ::) . I will look into my crystal ball , maybe find the answer  :D .
Logged
"Everyone ought to believe in something;  I believe I'll go fishing."

Rodney

  • Administrator
  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14766
  • Where's my strike indicator?
    • Fishing with Rod
Re: Bar fishing... bait or no bait?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2010, 12:50:13 PM »

Protection of interior coho salmon in September and part of October, management measures are usually bait ban and sometimes total salmon fishing closure.