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Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« on: December 04, 2007, 12:34:23 PM »
Estimated hours spent fishing, 274,915.

Estimated harvest. Chinook-8371, released 519.

Coho, 218/2,133.

Sockeye 11/24,264.

Pinks, 18,028/55,578.

Chum, still counting..

There figures are from DFO.
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 01:21:32 PM »
11 sockeye harvested? LOL
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 01:54:01 PM »
Quote from: DionJL on December 04, 2007, 01:21:32 PM
11 sockeye harvested? LOL

Not all know the difference in species, therefore the number taken.
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 04:43:12 PM »
Very high numbers of salmon taken as the river was so high & muddy for most of the season. ??? ::)
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 06:05:11 PM »
What are the boundaries of the area where this creel data is collected?

Over 20,000 sockeye salmon caught and released during a no fishing (not just closed) season is not acceptable in my opinion. That's one sockeye salmon released per 10 rod hours (generously speaking, since this is assuming sockeyes are caught and released during the months of May, June, September too).
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 06:21:48 PM »
Quote from: Rodney on December 04, 2007, 06:05:11 PM
What are the boundaries of the area where this creel data is collected?

Over 20,000 sockeye salmon caught and released during a no fishing (not just closed) season is not acceptable in my opinion. That's one sockeye salmon released per 10 rod hours (generously speaking, since this is assuming sockeyes are caught and released during the months of May, June, September too).

First they are caught and released, not caught and killed as nets do.
Second, the creel is from Hope to to salt water boundary.

The river was not closed to fishing. It was closed to retention of Sockeye.

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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 06:26:37 PM »
Really, high using the hours put in I would say it was very low and not productive.


Quote from: chris gadsden on December 04, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
Very high numbers of salmon taken as the river was so high & muddy for most of the season. ??? ::)
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 07:08:41 PM »
Seems unbelievable to me!

   


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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 07:49:16 PM »
Quote from: Old Black Dog on December 04, 2007, 06:21:48 PM
First they are caught and released, not caught and killed as nets do.
Second, the creel is from Hope to to salt water boundary.

The river was not closed to fishing. It was closed to retention of Sockeye.

Fishing using methods that intercepted sockeye was not permitted... And we've all been over that snaggy ground before...

I'm looking forward to the new regs coming down for 2008... All this mess will soon be over, and then we'll have to find something else to debate, hopefully what we can do to save the salmon from extinction...

;)
Nicole
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 07:51:50 PM by Nicole »
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 08:01:47 PM »
Nicole send me an e-mail
want to ask you something
ricks_honda@hotmail.com

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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2007, 08:16:33 PM »
Quote from: Old Black Dog on December 04, 2007, 06:26:37 PM
Really, high using the hours put in I would say it was very low and not productive.


Quote from: chris gadsden on December 04, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
Very high numbers of salmon taken as the river was so high & muddy for most of the season. ??? ::)
The results shows there was a problem that many did not fish selectively as requested. It was not helped as many would not and still do not realize fishing methods need now to be changed due to low returns of some fish stocks.

Hopefully after the series of meeting that were held with the Province and others in the next few weeks regulation changes will be made in time for next season to prevent the loss of the salmon fishery on the Fraser River.

If the changes are not made the fishery that many worked so hard starting back in the 1980 to get back may now be lost forever. :( :-[
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Re: Sports Fishing on the Fraser, not very productive are we??
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2007, 09:03:45 PM »
Quote from: TrophyHunter on December 04, 2007, 08:01:47 PM
Nicole send me an e-mail
want to ask you something
ricks_honda@hotmail.com

Rick

Hey, you've been emailed :)

Cheers,
Nicole
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