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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nutterbug on May 10, 2010, 11:37:35 AM

Title: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nutterbug on May 10, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
What species of landlocked salmon are there, other than kokanee?

What are the rules and limits to their catch?  Which agency is in charge of them (DFO or MoE)?
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on May 10, 2010, 01:42:43 PM
What species of landlocked salmon are there, other than kokanee?

What are the rules and limits to their catch?  Which agency is in charge of them (DFO or MoE)?

Their are landlocked coho in Kawkawa
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Dave on May 10, 2010, 05:33:15 PM
I am only aware of sockeye, coho and steelhead that decide to stay in freshwater rather than migrate to the Pacific Ocean, but probably some cutthroat and char populations do the same.
This seems to be just another survival strategy that seems to have worked for some populations like Kawkawa or Cultus (and probably other undocumented coastal lakes), most likely due to favorable water conditions and a full meal deal, meaning lots of food, in the chosen system.
Even now, a small portion of the very inbred Chilliwack River hatchery coho still decide to enter Sweltzer Creek, swim upstream for 3 kms, then reside for some time at least, in warm, food rich Cultus Lake.
 
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nutterbug on May 10, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
Also, can we assume that any sockeye caught in a lake is a kokanee, and likewise, any steelhead caught in a lake is just a large rainbow, and apply the regulations accordingly?
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on May 10, 2010, 10:08:00 PM
Also, can we assume that any sockeye caught in a lake is a kokanee, and likewise, any steelhead caught in a lake is just a large rainbow, and apply the regulations accordingly?

Nope. Some lakes those fish pass through. Their is atleast one lake I know of in the Lower Mainland that steelhead will pass through. I have witnessed a couple caught.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nutterbug on May 10, 2010, 10:33:20 PM
Nope. Some lakes those fish pass through. Their is atleast one lake I know of in the Lower Mainland that steelhead will pass through. I have witnessed a couple caught.

Pitt Lake?

I take it the stream fishing regulations apply there.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: clarki on May 10, 2010, 10:57:32 PM
Beyond BC, there is an active and popular fishery in eastern Canada/US for landlocked Atlantic salmon, called Sebago or ouananiche. For inquiring minds that want to know, the largest landlocked salmon, sport caught, on record was from Sebago Lake in Maine in 1907 and weighed 35.5 pounds.

Their are landlocked coho in Kawkawa

Not doubting you, however what is your basis for this? Up until now I've always been under the assumption that they were sea run and Kawkawa was just their nursery lake for a spell.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: colin6101 on May 11, 2010, 02:10:17 AM
I'm fairly certain that the majority of the coho in kawkawa are indeed landlocked. I've heard this from a DFO officer as well as read it on various sites including this one. I also know a few lower mainland lakes that steelhead will travel through so it is always best to check regs before just keeping fish out of any particular lake (the ones I know of have regs in place to protect any wild steelhead that end up in the lakes).
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nitroholic on May 11, 2010, 10:57:01 AM
There's pinks, coho, and chinook in the great lakes..
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on May 11, 2010, 12:45:30 PM
Pitt Lake?

I take it the stream fishing regulations apply there.

Not Pitt Lake I wont mention it as their is bound to be someone to be PO'd if I did.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: HOOK on May 11, 2010, 01:13:58 PM
Im pretty sure i know what lake your talking about BB and im not going to say anything here because it already recieves enough poaching as it is  >:(



and no im not calling people poachers, im just saying that i have watched people killing fish there  :'(
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nutterbug on May 11, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
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Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: HOOK on May 11, 2010, 01:25:30 PM
No cell service there bud  ;) and im also tired of reporting and seeing nothing. I do still call from time to time but not as much as i should. We called once during the pink run after watching a guy retain a WILD coho on the fraser. Of course DFO did show up but about 90mins late  ::)
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Nutterbug on May 11, 2010, 01:54:17 PM
No cell service there bud  ;) and im also tired of reporting and seeing nothing. I do still call from time to time but not as much as i should. We called once during the pink run after watching a guy retain a WILD coho on the fraser. Of course DFO did show up but about 90mins late  ::)

Take a camera with you to take photographic evidence and record of the perpetrator when possible.

Still worth a try if there's an odd chance they'll do something about it, and the more they do it, the more likely they'll get caught over time.  Put your money where your mouth is, if it bothers you so much.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: bluesteele on May 11, 2010, 02:27:59 PM
Im pretty sure i know what lake your talking about BB and im not going to say anything here because it already recieves enough poaching as it is  >:(



and no im not calling people poachers, im just saying that i have watched people killing fish there  :'(

At least they have made it a bait ban in that lake. Lots of poaching their..it's a shame... Cell service isnt too far away tho.  ;)

Bluesteele

Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: Rodney on May 13, 2010, 12:16:57 AM
Not doubting you, however what is your basis for this? Up until now I've always been under the assumption that they were sea run and Kawkawa was just their nursery lake for a spell.

Scale samples taken from 10 to 12in fish confirmed that they are 3 year old fish.
Title: Re: Landlocked Salmon
Post by: clarki on May 13, 2010, 10:50:15 PM
Scale samples taken from 10 to 12in fish confirmed that they are 3 year old fish.
Interesting... Thanks Rodney.