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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on October 10, 2008, 07:52:51 PM
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The bear that was bothering people while out on the river near the Cement Slabs was taken down by the CO service this afternoon.
As much as you hate this to happen but apparently the bear that had an injured front leg even had to be beaten off by a person with a rock recently. The bear was feeding on fish and also innards left by people after cleaning their fish. If you clean your fish at the river's edge please throw it out into the flow as that will help some.
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Good advice!
I fished one spot for many weeks.
No people, no bears.
I was in heaven.
:D
One day, I bleed a fish on the rocks.
Next day lots of people, 2 bears.
:(
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Good advice!
I fished one spot for many weeks.
No people, no bears.
I was in heaven.
:D
One day, I bleed a fish on the rocks.
Next day lots of people, 2 bears.
:(
Yes we must bleed the fish in the water to keep your spots secret. ;D ;D ;D
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The bear that was bothering people while out on the river near the Cement Slabs was taken down by the CO service this afternoon.
As much as you hate this to happen but apparently the bear that had an injured front leg even had to be beaten off by a person with a rock recently. The bear was feeding on fish and also innards left by people after cleaning their fish. If you clean your fish at the river's edge please throw it out into the flow as that will help some.
Or is it the people bothering the bear? Unless it was truely badly injuried .... thanks to mankind, another senseless destruction.
Seriously ... I've veiwed a few posts (from different sites) ... including a video of this bear. Now why would anglers feel threatened, knowing full well that this bear was using this area actively the past month. Then cry wolf when confronted by it?
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this bear in question has been aggressive for a couple months including charging a friend of mine a month ago... this is an overly aggressive animal that was wounded anyways and probably caused it to be that way... it needed to be put down.
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I hope they shoot some Eagles out that way too.
Im tired of listening to there loud screeches all the time.
Maybe put some Cougar traps out cause you know there are Cougars around there somewhere,and well,you dont want somebody sayin i told you so down the road.
Dont even get me startyed about Deer,the animal that kills the most people in North America year after year. ::)
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I hope they shoot some Eagles out that way too. I'm tired of listening to there loud screeches all the time. Unreal. From someone who is always decrying bb. and yet is ready to kill because of natures natural sounds. Well, go to it.
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oh jeeze. Settle down. The bear was endangering peoples lifes. When bears get agressive towards people and are not affraid something has to be done.
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a bear that has shown aggression towards humans really has no chance of being relocated. it will just take back it's old ways as to being aggressive later on, endangering more people. another note, the bear was injured. co's did the right thing here.
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Aggressive in what way? It probably had salmon carcasses it dined on spread throughout the area. Would all of you that decree this aggressive bears demise, agree we should do like wise to all bears encountered by hunter/anglers while out up north hunting or at other salmon spawning rivers?
Get real ... was this a case of human 'WE WANT TO FISH THERE' syndrome. If people so choose, then expect what has been previously posted. A bear that didn't show fear of man. Example ... Stamp river bears can be no different for those that have ventured there.
Now I'm reading the bear was injured. Post some viable proof ... like, this bear was hit by a vehicle and dragging a leg. Was it possible it was carrying around some snaggers 3/0 hook?
Venturing outdoors = sharing it. Seems some don't see it that way. ::)
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I hope they shoot some Eagles out that way too. I'm tired of listening to there loud screeches all the time. Unreal. From someone who is always decrying bb. and yet is ready to kill because of natures natural sounds. Well, go to it.
Read his post again, he was clearly wasn't being serious.
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3/0 hook wont make a bear limp.
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Injured bears eventually get desperate for food. Especially now when they are trying to fatten up for the winter. Public safety is number 1 and the conservation officer made the proper risk assessment and decision to kill the bear. Had the bear not been killed and the bear then attacked and maybe kill a person, there will be a lot of questions brought to why it wasnt killed and then the officer would have to live with that decision that would effect his life and career.
Knowing several conservation officers and having worked along side them at times, I can assure you that shooting an animal is the worst part of their job and when they get this type of call, which is frequent where I live, their eyes dont light up.
Its sad to see the animals lose out, as its not their fault, but this is reality. With education on the subject, proper steps taken such as minimizing garbage and other bear attractants we can minimize the amount of bear-human conflicts that will more than likely end in a dead bear.
glx
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not familiar with Vedder,just want to avoid the Cement Slabs area,how far it is from Vedder Cross?
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I was fishing mid river last year when a black bear came out of the bush between myself and two other anglers. The anglers started yelling and took off like bats out
of hell.The bear just casually walked along the river bank looking for fish. I'll bet by the time the story got out that these two anglers "Bearly'' escaped with their lives. Just another instance
of mother nature interacting with Joe public. I guess this bear should have been shot as it invaded some anglers space.
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boo hoo another bear was killed, get over it.
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Kingpin
Was that you and your buddy who I saw running up the river from the marauding bear?
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Kingpin
Was that you and your buddy who I saw running up the river from the marauding bear?
No, it was probably Shane and Sam ;D ;D
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wasnt me, i havent seen a bear on the river yet so far.
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rain into 8 bears today. 2 were the biggest blackies i have seen. ALL were different bears, and all in the same area. also one of them, a sow had her to cubs. went through 3 bangers today and popped the spray caps at least 4 times. bren can confirm this. absolutely insane. something has to be done, it is out of control. this seams to be a little more awkward then just getting ready for winter. 8 bears in the same area..common. btw, this was not the vedder
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all the berries are gone in this area!
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????? how does that seem like i am acting like i know it all. i fish the area everyday. gathering all the bears habits over the years, but this year is something different. heck, 2 people in my neighbourhood have already been mauled, one of them big enough to make the news for a couple days. no one around here has seen anything like it before. same thing goes with the vedder. i am pretty sure most people here can agree the large amount of bears on the vedder this year compared to other years.
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rain into 8 bears today. 2 were the biggest blackies i have seen. ALL were different bears, and all in the same area. also one of them, a sow had her to cubs. went through 3 bangers today and popped the spray caps at least 4 times. bren can confirm this. absolutely insane. something has to be done, it is out of control. this seams to be a little more awkward then just getting ready for winter. 8 bears in the same area..common. btw, this was not the vedder
So what do you propose be done ? Just let them do their thing. They will be sleeping for the winter soon. So what if a couple people get mauled. There are too many people around these days anyhow.
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wow, i guess bears lives are valued more than humans these days
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exactly my point kp
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So what if a couple people get mauled.
how would you like it if you were one of them.
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So what do you propose be done ? Just let them do their thing. They will be sleeping for the winter soon.....
Couldn't agree more.
Some of the dumbest posts here are from people who are crying the loudest on other threads about too few fish-yet they want to control (read destroy) every other form of nature they encounter.
This kind of (non)thinking is of course exactly the kind of ignorance that got us into the predicament we're in today.
Do we really want selfishness greed and ignorance to rule in today's world?
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????? how does that seem like i am acting like i know it all. i fish the area everyday. gathering all the bears habits over the years, but this year is something different. heck, 2 people in my neighbourhood have already been mauled, one of them big enough to make the news for a couple days. no one around here has seen anything like it before. same thing goes with the vedder. i am pretty sure most people here can agree the large amount of bears on the vedder this year compared to other years.
Confirmed.
Fished the area this morning with bren.
1 black
tottal of nine in 2 days on the same 1 km streach of water.
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Excellent now i can fill my bear tag there!!
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I don't get it.. ???
Why are people are for killing everything that interferes with their fishing ??? ::) If you arn't confertable around these bears then just leave, also why keep going back to the same 1 km stretch of river if you have seen 9 bears there already in the last 2 days. It doesnt' make any sense to me :-\
I guess a fish is more important to you than your own life (assuming these bears are as agressive as you make it out to be). They were there long before you were.
Maybe all the crap we are doing to the enviroment is the reason this is happeneing. Less fish every year, warmer temperatures every year, and expanding population are pushing all sort of animals out of their homes and probably making them more hungry. Don't worry, in 20 or so years we wont have any more fish left and you wont need to go into their space to get mauled.
Give your head a shake. ::)
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rain into 8 bears today. 2 were the biggest blackies i have seen. ALL were different bears, and all in the same area. also one of them, a sow had her to cubs. went through 3 bangers today and popped the spray caps at least 4 times. bren can confirm this. absolutely insane. something has to be done, it is out of control. this seams to be a little more awkward then just getting ready for winter. 8 bears in the same area..common. btw, this was not the vedder
Fish most island rivers and this is a normal day. Fish the nitnat and you can see 8 at once. Attacks are still uncommon just use some common sense and there not ushually a problem. Bears come down to the rivers in the fall for salmon same as people its nothing new. Every bear isnt going to maul you. I would say shoot an injured aggressive bear but otherwise just fish with them and if you dont want to then dont fish there. Haha reminds me of today we went hiking in banff and my buddy asks me if i called them to ask if there are bears or cougars. I couldnt help but laugh at him
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I don't get it.. ???
Why are people are for killing everything that interferes with their fishing ??? ::) If you arn't confertable around these bears then just leave, also why keep going back to the same 1 km stretch of river if you have seen 9 bears there already in the last 2 days. It doesnt' make any sense to me :-\
I guess a fish is more important to you than your own life (assuming these bears are as agressive as you make it out to be). They were there long before you were.
Maybe all the crap we are doing to the enviroment is the reason this is happeneing. Less fish every year, warmer temperatures every year, and expanding population are pushing all sort of animals out of their homes and probably making them more hungry. Don't worry, in 20 or so years we wont have any more fish left and you wont need to go into their space to get mauled.
Give your head a shake. ::)
I never stated that we were not comfortable around them, but to see 8 in a few hours same km stretch, all different bears is definately an very uncommon site for this area. Also, no more than an hour ago, just saw another sow and a cub. This is a bear I have never seen before. Cinnamon colour with a very small cubs.
Do you honestly want to know why we keep going back??? Stop assuming and thinking we are dumbasses, and definately do not tell us to give our heads a shake. We live on the river,. This is not some secluded area we are talking about. Once 11 bears come down the river into neighbourhoods and peoples lives are endangered, something should be done. Maybe it doesnt make sense to you because you have never experienced or visited the area. Stop assuming and acting like mr know it all
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i hate to say it cody, shea, but if ur safety is in danger, then even if the spot is in ur back yard, fish somewhere else, i dont want to see u on the news, headlines "YOUNG TEEN, MAULED BEYOND RECOGNITION"
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I never stated that we were not comfortable around them, but to see 8 in a few hours same km stretch, all different bears is definately an very uncommon site for this area. Also, no more than an hour ago, just saw another sow and a cub. This is a bear I have never seen before. Cinnamon colour with a very small cubs.
Do you honestly want to know why we keep going back??? Stop assuming and thinking we are dumbasses, and definately do not tell us to give our heads a shake. We live on the river,. This is not some secluded area we are talking about. Once 11 bears come down the river into neighbourhoods and peoples lives are endangered, something should be done. Maybe it doesnt make sense to you because you have never experienced or visited the area. Stop assuming and acting like mr know it all
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Agreed. The best we can do in situations like this is be procotionary. We have been. There is nothing we can do except what we have been doing. Your asumption that what we are trying to do is stupid, is unreasnable and insulting. We have bears on our streets and a few mins away on the river.
Don't assume u know everything about the situation
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i hate to say it cody, shea, but if ur safety is in danger, then even if the spot is in ur back yard, fish somewhere else, i dont want to see u on the news, headlines "YOUNG COQUITLAM TEEN, MAULED BEYOND RECOGNITION"
Sounds like somthing we are going to have to do
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I never stated that we were not comfortable around them,
Stop assuming and acting like mr know it all
Haha you said you shot your bear bangers at 3 and had your bearspray ready 4 times but were comfortable? What do you do when your uncomfortable call an airstrike? But seriously the younger guys on the site are what makes it worth coming back
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....no more than an hour ago, just saw another sow and a cub. This is a bear I have never seen before. Cinnamon colour with a very small cubs.
The Cinnamon coloured Bears are coming down from Lindeman Lake area there's been number of sightings of them up there this year I've even seen photos on Clubtread.com
....Once 11 bears come down the river into neighbourhoods and peoples lives are endangered, something should be done.....
You just don't get it do you?
There is no proof anyone is in any danger-you are acting like a scared little kid or a dumb clunk tourist-take your pick.
The only things that 'need to be done' is to secure all garbage, strip any remaining fruit from backyard trees and keep your pets inside.
The Bears will be gone soon enough there's no need for anyone to kill anything-if you phone the CO office they'll tell you exactly what I just posted.
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I never stated that we were not comfortable around them,
Stop assuming and acting like mr know it all
Haha you said you shot your bear bangers at 3 and had your bearspray ready 4 times but were comfortable? What do you do when your uncomfortable call an airstrike? But seriously the younger guys on the site are what makes it worth coming back
That doesnt mean we were uncomfortable. They were shot far distances away, and the bear spray for the added security incase the bear bangers had a backfire on the bear.
May only be 16, definately not immature!
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....no more than an hour ago, just saw another sow and a cub. This is a bear I have never seen before. Cinnamon colour with a very small cubs.
The Cinnamon coloured Bears are coming down from Lindeman Lake area there's been number of sightings of them up there this year I've even seen photos on Clubtread.com
....Once 11 bears come down the river into neighbourhoods and peoples lives are endangered, something should be done.....
You just don't get it do you?
There is no proof anyone is in any danger-you are acting like a scared little kid or a dumb clunk tourist-take your pick.
The only things that 'need to be done' is to secure all garbage, strip any remaining fruit from backyard trees and keep your pets inside.
The Bears will be gone soon enough there's no need for anyone to kill anything-if you phone the CO office they'll tell you exactly what I just posted.
I dont get it? Some of you should stop and think about this. This is another assumption from one of you. No proof? Earlier, I stated that 2 neighbours in the area had been severely mauled. Why does that not seem like a problem to some of you? (BTW, one of these stories was on Global News around mid August being broacasted for over a week on the woman's recovery). Our neighbourhood takes extra care in puting garbage away until the mornings, cleaning up, and so on and so forth.
Dont tell me I am acting like a scared little kid, or a dumb clunk tourist. I am only 16 and guarentee I am more immature than half of the people on this board.
I can't even believe that you can actually say that about me, who is the one that started this arguing?!?! I stated all the bears I have seen and then I get called dumb for going back? Well, considering there are over 100 car accidents, 5 fatal in B.C. a day, I guess we should all stop driving our cars. Not worth the risk ::) ::) ::)
People may continue to argue, and voice their opinions, but I have tried to make my point here and am done with this topic.
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Some of the name callings are really unnecessary. As usual, this could be a good discussion if respects are shown by some individuals. Just because someone is younger, doesn't mean you have the right to belittle him or her. If someone is wrong, share your wisdom in a respectful manner.
Thread closed until we get a chance to go through each post.
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Cody if a bear is far off then there is no need to shoot a banger? If your thinking you might shoot it past the bear why shoot it? the bear will run towards you. Spray or shoot bangers if your in trouble not if you see a bear hangin out at the river. By the age thing i just meant all the young guys know it all it seems. Saying they know the patterns of whats normal in nature at their 16 lol. Im not much older so i cant say whats true either though