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Author Topic: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19  (Read 5232 times)

Sinaran

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cancelled my trip to the vedder today because of the shady weather and went to ambleside/cap mouth with my friends instead.  didn't fish though , just watched and helped up a bit. water was low, lots of boats out there but couldn't see anyone catching fish.  no sign of salmon jumping too.  at around 6pm, friend caught two tommy cods and a shiner perch within 10 mins, not bad eh.  big one was about 10 inches, and the shiner perch was of palm size too.  he was fishing with shrimp, with a sinker to the bottom. 

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2005, 11:24:49 PM »

the perch is actually a juvenile striped seaperch.  shiners don't normally grow that large.

the other two look like white spotted greenlings, but i can't tell for sure (picture a little dark).

all very nice eating fish. :)
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2005, 11:42:39 PM »

juvenile striped seaperch?  i really don't know how to distinguish tidal fish.. :)     and from what i read from the book, the tommy cod looks very much like greenlings too, confusing~~

thanks for the infor bud.!
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 12:04:59 AM »

no problem.

i know what you mean about the different names. it can be confusing at times.
after awhile, it becomes second nature to know the species. no worries as long as you don't accidently kill something that's protected.

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 07:19:37 AM »

I saw a guy on ambleside give another guy S**T for killing a bull head?!!?  Turns out the one guy thought the bullhead was a lingcod (which he knew was closed)....talk about confused!!!!!! 
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 09:40:21 AM »

Would the tommy cod not count towards rockfish? is the daily limit not 1 in Georgia Strait?

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 09:52:43 AM »


Codfish (includes Pacific cod, Tom cod, pollock, and hake)
 1-29 
daily limit 8 fish, possesion limit of 16
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 11:08:19 AM »


Oh dear.  The daily limit for Greenling is 3 in Areas 1-29.  Most people refer to Greenling as "Tommy Cod" and that is VERY different from a "Tomcod" which is a true 'cod' fish. 
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2005, 01:39:58 PM »

were these caught off ambleside pier? that is rare.
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2005, 03:00:50 PM »

There seems to be some misinformation on saltwater non-salmon species identification so this maybe an opportunity to clarify.

Ambleside Park/Pier falls in Area 28 of the tidal water regulations.

Pacific tomcod



This is one of the smallest species in the true cod/codfish family (pacific cod, atlantic cod, etc). They are usually between 12 and 15 inches in length. A commercial fishery exists in the early part of 1900s but the stock numbers no longer support a sustainable fishery, but they are very tasty. They are also commonly called tommy cod. Daily quota is eight.


Greenling



Greenling or kelp greenling are also commonly called tommy cod, but are not related to pacific tomcod. It is a close relative of the lingcod. Note, male and female greenlings look completely different. Daily quota is three.


Lingcod



Daily quota for lingcod is zero in Area 28.


Shiner perch




Stripe perch




Pile perch



Daily quota of perch (mixed species!) is eight.


Rockfish



Daily quota of rockfish is one in Area 28.

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2005, 03:16:36 PM »

hope this will help a little. just a small list of coarse fish commonly found in the pacific northwest and the family they belong to.

Codfishes include:
 pacific cod, pacific tomcod, walleye pollock, pacific hake.

Scorpionfishes or commonly known as 'rockcod' include:
 copper rockfish,quillback rockfish, brown rockfish, china rockfish, yellowtail rockfish, black rockfish, blue rockfish, dusky rockfish, bocaccio, silver rockfish, widow rockfish, canary rockfish, vermilion rockfish, tiger rockfish, yelloweye rockfish, splitnose rockfish, puget sound rockfish, redstripe rockfish, greenstripe rockfish, shortspine thornyhead.

The Greenlings include:
 kelp greenling, whitespotted greenling, rock greenling, lingcod, painted greenling.

The Sculpins include:
 37 different species commonly known as 'bullheads' (the great sculpin and pacific staghorn being the two most caught).  on this list includes the cabezon, red irish lord, and brown irish lord (very edible and tasty fish).




 
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2005, 03:23:23 PM »



the other two look like white spotted greenlings, but i can't tell for sure (picture a little dark).



still not certain. also looks like brown irish lords. did it have a line of rough scales running along it's side?
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2005, 04:08:41 PM »

I saw a guy next to me catch a SOLE in the fraser.at brownsville as usual :o

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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2005, 06:12:53 PM »

Starry flounder maybe, Hey 100 posts... ;D
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Re: something other than salmon... at Cap mouth/Ambleside park September 19
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2005, 07:48:49 PM »

Rod i think they are greenling. Greenling can differ alot in color. Female kepl greenling are almost a silver with tons of small brownish dots. The males are almost a purple or blue like in rods pic with the funny dots.White spotted greenling are different thats what your picture looks like they are more molted for camo on sandy muddy bottoms. All will take almost any lure and put up  good scrap. They also cook up pretty well although i havent kept on in a few years
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