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Gooey

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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2004, 01:41:12 PM »

Joedavis...have you ever actually had to use the lifetime warrantee program with sage....I bet you havent!  You are not correct in you posting regarding sages warrantee.  I closed the car door on my 990 RPL breaking both halves...cost be $35 buck for a BRAND NEW ROD!

If you buy a custom built rod, then maybe you are also looking at cork or guides...but thats  not the case on factory rods...be aware of that and check with the shop you buy it from regarding the warrantee  program.  BTW  I got that rod on ebay from a guy in australia so if you are lucky, even a cheaper 2nd hand sage could work!

Oh ya a budy and I recently built some rods up...he tied a 3 piece st croix for bait cast....he said the thirds tend to rotate on him while fishing...his advice was only build a 3 or 4 piece with the guides underhung (centre pin or fly).
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2004, 01:56:15 PM »

One more thing, a good rod can make you a better fisherman!  I have landed 4 summer run steelhead (6-9 lbs) on the same 4 lb leader...My 3113 with its length and limberness helped take the shock out of a ton of jumps and sizzling runs too. 

I bet most of those fish would have snapped off on a cheaper/heavier rod (like a convergence).
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2004, 02:00:36 PM »

Gooey, SInce you obviously have used some of the more expensive rods do you notice a difference in the arc when you have a fishon? My convergence arcs to such a degree I'm always scared that its going to shatter when I hook into a spring or even a foul hooked chum. My rod is a medium/slow rod I think, I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I'd love to pick up a rod that while still sensitive has a little more backbone to it. Do the Sage and other upper end rods offer this?
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2004, 02:15:41 PM »

Give Russ a call at Stryker. 604 585 6948
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2004, 02:54:42 PM »

Hey Gooey,

You bet wrong. ;D  I also had a "factory Sage RPL flyrod" replaced for a nominal fee, which I think was around $40. Yes, for factory flyrods you get a replacement part complete with guides/cork (or new rod). We're talking about Sage drift rods here and since Sage doesn't make any "factory" drift rods what I posted earlier are the facts. I have used Sage 3113MB for years and I have had to replace the upper half of the rod once and I am guessing that you haven't had to replace your 3113 yet. You'll see what I mean about the costs.
Also the colour of the blank they sent back was slightly lighter than that of the original blank. Had to wait quite a long time too. Lucky I have two 3113's.  ;D

Sandhead...the Sage 3113 will be all you need if you are looking for a great rod. I am very happy with mine.
Loomis rods have more sensitive and faster tip. The 1263 GL3 is as good as the 3113 but the older Loomis IM6 1263 was the best rod ever built according to some of my older fishing friends.
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2004, 03:01:19 PM »

There is a Sage 3106lb posted on the for sale page.

Here is the link:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5191.0
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2004, 03:01:28 PM »

I've been having a blast with my new Stryker 2106 on the Vedder. Russ sells them at $375. Great for coho, can handle smallish chum and spring. The blank is rainshadow. The components, up to you, you choose them, he puts on the rod. I also have the Stryker 3106, but I find that slightly too heavy for the type of fishing I do, which is mostly sculpi... oops I meant coho. :)

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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2004, 03:38:51 PM »

Rodney,
What rod would you recommend for Chum and Spring fishing?

If i were to get a new rod, I'd probably keep my convergence for coho and pink fishing and use my new rod for spring and chum fishing. I've never  figured out what the action refers to. What does it refer to? Slow action mean a stiffer rod?
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2004, 03:40:44 PM »

I'll tell you after Friday as we are doing some Squamish chum action then. ;) I'll be testing the 3106 on the chum. I've been told the 3106 is sufficient enough for the chum and spring. Basically, the higher the first digit is, the heavier/stiffer/stronger the rod is.

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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2004, 05:23:29 PM »

Oh ya a budy and I recently built some rods up...he tied a 3 piece st croix for bait cast....he said the thirds tend to rotate on him while fishing...his advice was only build a 3 or 4 piece with the guides underhung (centre pin or fly).

well Gooey, i myself and other member on this board both builded a St. Croix 3 pieces 10 1/2 footer 9wt into a baitcaster. We have caught anything from jack coho to 30+lb spring, never had any problem. Nothing like your friends mention with twisting or rotateing while fishing. The only problem it might casue this problem is your friend didn;t "spine" the rod right before building it. 
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2004, 06:58:28 PM »

I find the Shimano Convergence is able to handle anything that the Stave River has to offer. Good Rod at a even better price :)

i 2nd that... when ive used for almost half a year now. right now is my number 1 choice. even thought i have never hooked one of those magneficent cohos/springs you guys been talking about...

before i have alwaysed used the rod in a way that i dont stress it. but i accident hooked a seal once at ambleside and the thing took a nose dive right into the pier... like bending my rod all the way down ... finally my line snapped but ... with that kind of force.. im pretty impress with the quality of the rod... oh and i paid 80 for mine at Army and navy :)
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2004, 07:37:59 PM »

My Berkley IM7 has been a pleasure and usually priced about 1/2 way between a Convergence/St Croix vs Sage/Loomis.

I have found that manufactures' ( sp? been a long time since school) are usually happy to replace your rod for virtually any breakage. ESPECIALLY if you go to the fishing store you frequent. I've had at least 4 replaced. The Stave is notorious for breaking rods.

Your friendly tackle store will probably also answer your questions equally happily. If you want to save a few bucks, they may have some on sale. Rods are pretty personal, I would check a few.

Tough job,  but I think you'll manage ;)
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2004, 07:39:31 PM »

Good point on the Sage bait rods all beig custom now...never thought about that!  

You know a 3113mb is rated for 10-17lb mainline I believe.  I fish 12-15 main (depending on season) and never fish above 12lb leader...you should find it virtually impossible to break a 3113mb under those circumstances and 12lb main is usaully enfuff to land the biggest brutes on the vedder.

I'll be the first to admit there is a bit of a snobbery to using a high end rod like a sage, but personally, I just find them more enjoyable.  I find a nice soft rod great for casting as it slowly loads up and slings the bait out ( that action is critical for center pins).  And once you get fish on, having a rod that you can fell and see the head shakes thru the whole rod...that really adds to it for me!  I like the nice even bend on my 3113 and I find it has enuff back bone for bigger fish too.  Keep in mind that the slower the rod and the heavier the back bone, the less enjoyable the rod will be for smaller species like coho or summer run steelhead. my buddy hass a 2106 sage and lovers it He was beached many large springs with it and got 2nd place in freds steelhead derby with an 18lber and yet its a great coho rod too.  the 3106 should be a little beefier but still a great rod for coho.  The one on the board is not a bad price either.
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2004, 09:10:24 PM »

I've got two 3113's , a 3106 , and a 4120  all Sage Rods and I love em all.  They are very sensitive and all catch my share of fish, you wouldn't be disappointed.
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Re: What river rod to buy?
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2004, 07:13:58 AM »

Does sage make a 2113?
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