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LukeYVR

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Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« on: September 24, 2004, 01:38:45 AM »
This may seem a strange question, but...

I forgot to mention at the Vedder Sep.22 Fishing Report, that besides a jack coho, I’d also caught a sculpin.  ::)0   They live just about everywhere, don't they?!!! :o

Long time ago my jewish friend told me, that sculpin is a biblically Clean Fish.
I found a list of clean fishes, but couldn’t find why they are.

http://www.geocities.com/sabbath_7th_day/clean.html

And thus my question; what constitute clean fishes as oppose to unclean fishes?
I am confused, because my understanding was, when you drain blood from an animal, they are kosher.  ???

Thanx in advance.
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Steelhead King

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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2004, 01:45:35 AM »
This year, i had 2 buddies guilded a group of Jewish guest.  They only fish for salmon and nothing else. We asked them why, they said, "all bottom fish, ie halibut, rockcod, lingcod... are garbage feeder, they are unclean and its not kosher." 
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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2004, 07:24:06 AM »
religion is only good for confusing things. eat whatever you want. when I die there is no way an omnipotent being will say, you're a great guy but you ate a shrimp - to hell with you.

that sounds like a man's law masquerading as divine.

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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2004, 09:23:11 AM »
Quote from: Steelhead King on September 24, 2004, 01:45:35 AM
"all bottom fish, ie halibut, rockcod, lingcod... are garbage feeder, they are unclean and its not kosher." 

More for the rest of us ! Do they eat pork ? Muslims consider pigs as being dirty animals.
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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2004, 10:27:04 AM »
Quote from: Steelhead King on September 24, 2004, 01:45:35 AM
This year, i had 2 buddies guilded a group of Jewish guest.  They only fish for salmon and nothing else. We asked them why, they said, "all bottom fish, ie halibut, rockcod, lingcod... are garbage feeder, they are unclean and its not kosher." 

kosher depends on how strictly, a jewish person practices his faith.  orthodox jews are the most vigilant.

the true definition of NOT kosher (in regards to fish) is fish that are considered to be scavengers, but more accurately, fish that have no scales.

i'm not jewish, but according to a group of jewish people at work, their rabbi says the fish listed above are considered KOSHER because they have scales and they are known to take live prey.

in isreal,  they raise pigs that never touch the ground/earth.  they are born on wooden pallets and live their lives on them. they are strictly monitored by rabbis and are slaughtered by them.  they're called 'white beef'.
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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2004, 06:46:25 AM »
It's been a long time since I've done any reading or study of the Bible but the Mosaic laws are alll laid out in the old testament.  To be clean, fish must have both fins and scales.  This allows a lot of scavengers and bottom feeders.  I know a lot of Jewish people that eat carp and there isn't a much greater scavenger than a lake trout in the spring after the smelt run.  Pike have a feast on dead smelt then too.  Beasts of the field must be cloven footed and chew the cud.  This would exclude pork regardless of how it's raised since they are not cud chewers. Fowl must not be web footed.  This is what I remember from many years ago before I dismissed religion as just another control thing.
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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2004, 06:58:45 AM »
For more:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/question416.htm

Out of interest, non-scaled fish, are as bad as homosexuality according to (I belive Leviticus)  So, think of THAT the next time you're eating shrimp  :o
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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2004, 07:57:31 AM »
no scales = bad.

However, not everyone still follows these rules so strictly.

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Re: Kosher & non-Kosher Fish?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2004, 07:39:44 PM »
Thanx guys... It really confused the heck out of me..   ;D

Come to think of it, fish I've caught had a circle U on its forehead...

Thanx for the link Dragonspeed.  Man!, that's sure is  complicated.  :o
I like squid &  octopus, I go straight to hell..  Japanese just can not
follow those sea-food rules..

I'm supposed to be a Christian and broke just about every commandments.
Except for the, thou shalt not kill part.. It might be coming, though..

Quote from: dennisK on September 24, 2004, 07:24:06 AM
when I die there is no way an omnipotent being will say, you're a great guy but you ate a shrimp - to hell with you.

I am not so sure dude..
South Park had an episode:
Everyone goes to the hell and Devil says,
"Sorry people, I am afraid  Mormons were right."  :P  ;D

Oh, welcome back S. King.
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