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[Rodney]

It will be now.

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[Rodney]

Not a bad morning.

[Wiseguy]

Chum is open now eh? That’s bad news with these extreme low water conditions. The slaughter will continue unfortunately and now Chum is added to the mix. Sad news indeed.

[Dave]

Chum is open now eh? That’s bad news with these extreme low water conditions. The slaughter will continue unfortunately and now Chum is added to the mix. Sad news indeed.

Totally agree, the chums should have been left for eagle food; there's more than enough coho and chinooks for this fishery.  <900,000, my God but we're setting the bar lower every few years!  Lower mainland and coastal rivers should have total chum returns in the millions.

[BNF861]

Definitely agree Dave. I'm sure the occasional chum gets eaten and if fresh enough is fine but I can't help but think the majority that are retained are not of eating quality and anglers after the roe for bait and then toss the fish or give away to someone that doesn't know any better between the salmon species. As you said, plenty of other chinook/coho opportunities.

[Phronesis]

Now since artificial beads work great, hope that the demand for roe should be low.... Right? Or do people harvest roe for any other reasons?

[Darko]

Now since artificial beads work great, hope that the demand for roe should be low.... Right? Or do people harvest roe for any other reasons?

Many still do, they use it for barfishing, trout fishing ect. Many eat it either baked or made into caviar ect.

[avid angler]

Nothing wrong with using roe as bait as long as the whole fish is used. Especially if the eggs are harvested from a hatchery fishery. Beads also wouldn’t be as effective if every single guy out there was using them.

[clarki]

Add my name to the list of those not wanting chum to be open to retention.

This summer for sockeye, and this fall for coho and chinook, anyone who wants to catch a salmon for the table has had ample opportunity.

We don’t need to catch and eat every salmon in the the river.

With the compounding effects of climate change, habitat loss and ocean conditions, it’s Ok to let as many chum as possible fertilize the rivers and forests and feed the eagles, bears, cutthroat and a multitude of other species in the food web.

As a compromise maybe only open the Stave and C/V to retention.

[coastangler]

Agreed clarki, also I'm not sure why they don't apply the same rule that the Chehalis has (no retention after Dec 1st, although this should be no fishing) to all other rivers to at least protect the last spawners from stress. What's the point on allowing these fish being hammered until the very end?

[iblly]

Gillnet boats in new west harbour right now. Fishing chum I would assume.

[RalphH]

hey I remember what fishing the Stave was like when there was no fishing for chum anywhere in non tidal water! 

[Chum Slayer]

I was out today, after hiking a little bit I found a nice spot with coho,chum and steelhead smolts. After watching the fish swim around for a little bit, I casted my gibbs croc out, after a few hours 11 am to 2:30 pm I had one bite from a coho, one from a chum and had a buck chum follow my spoon. Anyway, I left empty-handed with no fish. however, I did pay a visit to the canal gong show and counted 120 cars in total, with nobody bringing any fish back to their cars except one young guy who brought back a chum with a white belly. Also, on a side note, I think chum should be open to catch and release fishing this year and for the next 8 or until they get back to the run numbers of the 1990's.

[fic]

Anyone know why you can retain 2 chums at the Stave River but 1 on the Vedder?  Why not 1 chum on both rivers? 

[RalphH]

the Harrison and Nicomen also have a limit of 2 chum.