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Fisherbob

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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2019, 09:43:52 PM »

A lower level (8001,000 ppm) is recommended for raising seedlings (tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers) as well as for lettuce production. Even lower levels (500800 ppm) are recommended for African violets and some Gerbera varieties. Increased CO2 levels will shorten the growing period (5%10%), improve crop quality and yield, as well as, increase leaf size and leaf thickness. The increase in yield of tomato, cucumber and pepper crops is a result of increased numbers and faster flowering per plant.

http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm

https://dutchgreenhouses.com/technology/co2-enrichment
 If you think co2 is not usefull, perhaps petiion to have greenhouses label their poducts co2 infused 😜
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2019, 11:28:20 PM »

It was not that long ago when it was warmer than today

https://sciencenordic.com/a/1447746
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2019, 10:37:47 AM »

I guess you realized people stopped rising to your salmon farming bait so now it's Climate Change & moving from industry literature to pseudo-science websites like wattsupwiththat.  ;D
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2019, 07:54:44 PM »

I sure hope it will not go this far in Canada.
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2019, 09:13:40 AM »

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/medieval-warm-period
Interesting and well written, but not current by any means.  In 2006, the author (Don Easterbrook, a Geology PhD) predicted that the globe was about to experience a cooling period until about 2035, then mild warming, then cooling again.  So far his predictions are falling flat.

As of 2017, those who made similar predictions are losing bets left and right:  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/dec/19/checkmate-how-do-climate-science-deniers-predictions-stack-up

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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2019, 10:02:34 AM »

Interesting and well written, but not current by any means.  In 2006, the author (Don Easterbrook, a Geology PhD) predicted that the globe was about to experience a cooling period until about 2035, then mild warming, then cooling again.  So far his predictions are falling flat.

As of 2017, those who made similar predictions are losing bets left and right:  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/dec/19/checkmate-how-do-climate-science-deniers-predictions-stack-up

I agree its a well established scientific fact that increasing CO2 will warm the planet. What is also well established is the earth has gone though some warming trends like the medieval warming period and some cooling trends despite C02 levelings increasing.

Urbanization also plays a huge roll.

However there does not seem to be a lot of solutions other then fear mongering and trying to make money of the climate change debate.
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2019, 10:05:49 AM »

yes the temperature has gone up since the 1960s and looks scarey from that point to now. when looking at the last 10000 years, we are looking pretty rosey  :)

 https://skepticalscience.com/10000-years-warmer.htm
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2019, 07:49:33 AM »

I agree its a well established scientific fact that increasing CO2 will warm the planet. What is also well established is the earth has gone though some warming trends like the medieval warming period and some cooling trends despite C02 levelings increasing.

Urbanization also plays a huge roll.

However there does not seem to be a lot of solutions other then fear mongering and trying to make money of the climate change debate.
I fully agree with you Wildmanyeah. The only fear I have is Canada's economy going in the same direction Australia is. Everyone wants more, but where do we think it will come from? funding will never fall off trees. This clip brings up a lot of common sense IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQmaAbr9_M

 seems we are very close, if not already there. watch your investments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmSGQAgLGF4
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2019, 10:05:00 AM »

Young people need to watch, at least the last 7 minutes of this video and decide what you want your future to be. Also, Ralph, you seem to not like foreign investment in Canada. You may want to watch this to see what kind of a Canada you could be leaving for your offspring.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gw4g2XoDk&t=920s
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2019, 02:38:24 PM »

The Root Cause of Climate change is undoubtedly population growth ! For example when I started travelling the world in 1967 the total population on this planet was about 3.46 billion ! In 2019 the population of our world is around 7.7 Billion . So in just over 50 years the world population has more than  doubled!
Not only are their many more mouths to feed but expectations are much higher regarding home comforts such as heat & light plus local & world travel. The resulting stress on the environment to provide for everybody is staggering and ultimately unsustainable, yet year over year the world population continues to grow ! Surely control of the world population has got to a big part of the formulae for addressing the issues around climate change ?
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2019, 03:03:06 PM »

The Root Cause of Climate change is undoubtedly population growth ! For example when I started travelling the world in 1967 the total population on this planet was about 3.46 billion ! In 2019 the population of our world is around 7.7 Billion . So in just over 50 years the world population has more than  doubled!
Not only are their many more mouths to feed but expectations are much higher regarding home comforts such as heat & light plus local & world travel. The resulting stress on the environment to provide for everybody is staggering and ultimately unsustainable, yet year over year the world population continues to grow ! Surely control of the world population has got to a big part of the formulae for addressing the issues around climate change ?
Best climate change post ever!!!!
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Re: Climate change debate
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2019, 03:58:55 PM »

The Root Cause of Climate change is undoubtedly population growth ! For example when I started travelling the world in 1967 the total population on this planet was about 3.46 billion ! In 2019 the population of our world is around 7.7 Billion . So in just over 50 years the world population has more than  doubled!
Not only are their many more mouths to feed but expectations are much higher regarding home comforts such as heat & light plus local & world travel. The resulting stress on the environment to provide for everybody is staggering and ultimately unsustainable, yet year over year the world population continues to grow ! Surely control of the world population has got to a big part of the formulae for addressing the issues around climate change ?

Its very unpopular policy that's why you never see the major ENGO's talk about it.  It would also likely cause massive deflation and rich people would be screaming their heads off as their retirement assists lost value.
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