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chris gadsden

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More Problems At Fish Farms
« on: November 20, 2013, 08:06:13 AM »

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013
Feds Quarantine Fish Farms

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency has quarantined two Atlantic fish farms and ordered the destruction of tonnes of salmon to stem the spread of an infectious virus.

The agency confirmed thousands of fish must be destroyed at two aquaculture sites in Newfoundland & Labrador following outbreaks of infectious salmon anaemia. Inspectors would not divulge the volume of infected fish or name the company involved: “For privacy reasons the agency cannot reveal the name or specific locations of the facilities.”

However Blacklock’s determined between 1300 and 1700 tonnes of salmon at one fish farm, and up to 2000 tonnes at another, are to be destroyed.

The region’s largest fish farmer, Cook Aquaculture Inc., earlier acknowledged its Hermitage Bay, Nfld. facility was cited by federal inspectors for salmon anaemia. In a separate incident, Cooke confirmed that some 20,000 salmon escaped from its Hermitage Bay pens in September. Neither the company nor federal inspectors commented on whether infected fish were believed to have had contact with wild salmon.

“The Agency has placed movement control measures on the facilities to control movement of fish,” a Food Inspection Agency spokesperson said.

Scientists and researchers have cautioned that salmon anaemia in farmed fish poses a risk to wild populations.

An outbreak of the virus at a Cooke Aquaculture farm at Shelburne, N.S. led to the destruction of 140,000 salmon last February.

Scientists estimate the death rate for Atlantic salmon infected with the virus is nearly 90 percent, though the virus poses no risk to human health.

“Infectious salmon anaemia does pose risks to aquatic animal health and the economy,” noted the Inspection Agency, which estimated that 80 percent of the nation’s salmon catch, both wild and farmed stock, is sold for export.

By Paul Delahanty

chris gadsden

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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 08:48:01 AM »

Alexandra Morton   8:15am Nov 21
Well, well, well the aquaculture industry did not get the federal legislation they have been lobbying for - is there a backroom deal somewhere, or is the dirty little Norwegian salmon farming industry loosing its grip?

Thursday, November 21, 2013
There Oughta Be A Law

The Department of Fisheries is levying $815,000 in new fees on B.C. aquaculture but stopped short of proposing national legislation to standardize fish farming practices.

The department for the first time detailed a schedule of proposed fees for fish farmers, including a flat $100 charge for salmon producers with an additional “access to water” fee of $2.50 a tonne, to $5 per hectare for shellfish.

The federal department assumed regulation of commercial fish farming in British Columbia on Dec. 19, 2010 and has since attempted to draft a fee schedule.

“They consulted and it took years,” said Roberta Stevenson, executive director of the B.C. Shellfish Growers Association. “The bureaucracy is so overloaded and so slow that something as simple as charging $100 to operate took years to figure out. How are we supposed to make any progress on the real issues?”

Fisheries Minister Gail Shea did not comment.

Stevenson said the fees appeared modest, and likened the charges to a standard fishing license fee – “as if we are going out and catching cod,” she said. “We are farmers; we work yearlong. The system isn’t really fitting well for us, and until it does there will be no growth.”

Aquaculture in British Columbia alone is estimated at $534 million annually by federal regulators. Operators have appealed for stand-alone legislation to unify industry practices beyond amendments to the Fisheries Act.

“This process has highlighted the need for an aquaculture act,” said Colleen Dane, spokesperson for the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association.

The 2013 budget proposed a $57.5 million review of aquaculture regulations. The Canadian industry has grown 52 percent in the past decade to an estimated $2 billion annually.

Farmed salmon is B.C.’s largest single agricultural export, according to producers.

By Kaven Baker-Voakes BAYLOCKS http://www.blacklocks.ca/there-oughta-be-a-law

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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 03:30:30 PM »

I think Chris is posting it for a good reason.

A + B = C

Ie. if it goes down in one place seems pretty stupid to dismiss it, defend it, and not be too concerned about it in another  8)
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2013, 06:04:40 PM »

Interesting stuff Chris but how is this relevant to BC salmon farming? ::)

Because disease mutates Dave.

http://www.wilsondisease.med.ualberta.ca/database.asp
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 07:24:38 PM »

Because disease mutates Dave.

http://www.wilsondisease.med.ualberta.ca/database.asp
True enough.
Diseases in man induced crops, animal and vegetable, have been happening since people began domesticating animals and planting seeds; disease is still common in most crops raised today, including people.
What's important to me, from where I sit on this fence, is that these farmed Atlantic's here in BC and in Washington appear to be robust and healthy, as have recent returns of Pacific salmon to most tributaries of the Fraser .
When we consider the really important issues coming up for wild salmon here in BC, (not Scotland, Ireland, Chile, or Newfoundland) these farms are low priority, but are a perfect scapegoat. JMO, of course :)

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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 09:23:59 PM »

Because disease mutates Dave.

http://www.wilsondisease.med.ualberta.ca/database.asp

Wrong.  It is not the disease that mutates - it is the genetic material that mutates.  A mutation is the change in the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus or extrachromosomal genetic element.  A disease is an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism.

Let Google be your friend.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease
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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2013, 10:26:16 PM »

Regardless of the disease, why would you want it show up at all, its been shown to be present in farms elsewhere,sadly isnt it only a matter of time before this ISA virus shows up here.It has shown up as close as Washington state where,they did a massive cull of all fish and has to sterilize all nets,etc.Not sure why but they seem to be more realistic and up front about whats going on with their fishfarms.
 Everyone is focused on the fish farms, but we can control them,why wouldnt we do all possible to make sure they dont affect our wild stocks as well as other factors affecting our wild stocks.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 08:04:05 AM »

Wrong.  It is not the disease that mutates - it is the genetic material that mutates.  A mutation is the change in the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus or extrachromosomal genetic element.  A disease is an abnormal condition that affects the body of an organism.

Let Google be your friend.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease


Eyem soorree, itts jest meye ignernt rednek bakgrownd end knot gooin two sum fancee skool two lern end gittin sum fancee edukashun. ;D

Whatever- mutations do happen and disease becomes resistant to "cures". That's a simple fact with no semantics.

And here's your gold star!

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 04:14:06 PM »

Regardless of the disease, why would you want it show up at all, its been shown to be present in farms elsewhere,sadly isnt it only a matter of time before this ISA virus shows up here.It has shown up as close as Washington state where,they did a massive cull of all fish and has to sterilize all nets,etc.Not sure why but they seem to be more realistic and up front about whats going on with their fishfarms.
 
The cull you mention in Washington was a result of IHN, not ISA.  ISA, the disease, has not been identified on the Pacific west coast.  Strains of ISAv, or a virus very close have been found, and are according to DF0's  Dr. Kristi Miller, likely endemic.
Bottom line is that this virus, whatever it turns out to be, has apparently no impact on either farmed Atlantics or Pacific salmon.

Please explain how are Washington State salmon farmers are more realistic and up front than those in BC?
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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2013, 01:04:39 AM »

Isa has a close to a 90% mortality rate on on atlantic salmon.This virus while endemic in sockeye salmon ,is not found in the   epidemic proportions that it is found in farmed atlantic salmon.Not sure how you can make a statement like that ,no impact on either farmed atlantics or pacific salmon

The facts are as soon as the farms in Washington State found they had an epidemic, they immediately ordered the cull of their stocks.Its a American owned company,read "accountable",,not a foreign interest with no regard  to environment other than greed.

 The fact that they have a State Fish health Supervisor that is concerned for conservation speaks volumes.
 Certainly different than the muzzled,overly politicized ,fumbling bureacrats that we have running our department .
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 11:28:25 PM »

Isa has a close to a 90% mortality rate on on atlantic salmon.This virus while endemic in sockeye salmon ,is not found in the   epidemic proportions that it is found in farmed atlantic salmon.Not sure how you can make a statement like that ,no impact on either farmed atlantics or pacific salmon

The facts are as soon as the farms in Washington State found they had an epidemic, they immediately ordered the cull of their stocks.Its a American owned company,read "accountable",,not a foreign interest with no regard  to environment other than greed.

 The fact that they have a State Fish health Supervisor that is concerned for conservation speaks volumes.
 Certainly different than the muzzled,overly politicized ,fumbling bureacrats that we have running our department .

I believe you have ISA confused with IHN.

If you are indicating that BC fish farms are unresponsive in these situations the facts state otherwise....

http://www2.canada.com/topics/travel/story.html?id=6640338
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/public-update-2-ihn-and-bc-salmon-farms
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/animals/aquatic-animals/diseases/reportable/ihn/eng/1330122585767/1330122721075
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/animals/aquatic-animals/diseases/reportable/ihn/fact-sheet/eng/1330124360826/1330124556262
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Re: More Problems At Fish Farms
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 09:27:26 AM »

True enough.


Quote from: shuswapsteve on November 23, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
Wrong.  It is not the disease that mutates - it is the genetic material that mutates.

How about "foot in mouth disease", Dave?  ::)
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