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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3376 on: June 03, 2021, 11:49:57 AM »

Thankfully, this is starting to get some traction again.

https://biv.com/article/2021/05/debilitating-virus-spreading-wild-salmon-through-fish-farms-say-ubc-researchers

Debilitating virus spreading to wild salmon through fish farms, say UBC researchers

A UBC study using genomic sequencing has found the piscine orthoreovirus has been transmitted from B.C. fish farms to wild Pacific chinook for at least a decade, leading researchers to call for a "precautionary approach" to salmon farming

Sadly, 4 or 5 years ago, DFO was supposed to produce 8 reports on salmon health and possible dangers to them.
They only produced one report saying PRV didn't affect Sockeye but it's clear that it mostly affects Chinook.

Google "piscine orthoreovirus".
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3377 on: June 04, 2021, 08:08:15 AM »

“He also argues that the paper’s authors “are an isolated group (not representative of the entire Canadian Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO)) who continually focus on activist research against aquaculture and ignore contradicting evidence”.
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/prv-was-in-canada-before-salmon-farming-says-fish-vet/?fbclid=IwAR1-EKAKhMwhmwZ8DMiutMS_vuxmaYAGY1JOeZtG28ldjq0DRFZl62Ol7F0
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« Reply #3378 on: June 12, 2021, 08:19:26 AM »

“Dr. Hugh Mitchell, an aquaculture veterinarian, with more than 30 years of experience, agreed that the latest paper has more to do with activism against fish farms than science.”

https://seawestnews.com/10-million-program-hijacked-by-anti-salmon-farming-activists/?fbclid=IwAR0Bco9-6HiGOFFY0iFnB_MGweO8M-C1ggERt7oBUGv958BlQglQJ8PuXQY
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3380 on: June 19, 2021, 08:29:02 PM »

Fine, let Atlantic Canada farm atlantic salmon.  I believe that fish farms on the west coast are harmful to our five wild salmon species.  I do not believe that atlantic salmon should be 'farmed' on the west coast.  Is that only because atlantic salmon are easier to raise instead of coho or chinook?
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3383 on: July 02, 2021, 09:45:13 AM »

https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/opinion/testimony-again-showed-a-high-level-of-ignorance-letter/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&fbclid=IwAR2nU_wKtdWxgsvYXTKSnnKpZkWGPydSzNPWT6QIkNz3qX07ps9x6wu3CzM

A letter to the editor is the best you can do? By someone in the aquaculture industry? How about some real facts?

https://www.campbellrivermirror.com/news/study-tofino-fish-farm-sea-lice-infestations-add-fuel-to-push-to-remove-open-pens/

"In 2018, Bartlett said B.C. fish farms developed a resistance to the SLICE, an infeed sea lice treatment, that resulted in the highest spike of sea lice ever recorded.
At one point during the spring out-migration of wild salmon, Bartlett said the industry reported as many as 50 sea lice per fish on a farm site.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada reported the average number of sea lice per fish in 2018 was 13.

“The number of sea lice were definitely better in 2019, but they are still quite high. They weren’t fully able to prevent sea lice outbreaks on farms.
Within the terms of licence, they have to keep below three motile lice per fish on farm and they still haven’t been able to keep below that number in either 2019 or 2020,” Bartlett said.”

“Last year, they went over nine separate times. That number was designed to help prevent impacts on wild juvenile salmon during their migration,” said Bartlett, adding that in Norway the motile lice per fish has gone down to 1.5 lice per fish in some areas.
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Sea lice are pink smolt killers.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3384 on: July 04, 2021, 10:35:39 AM »

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« Reply #3386 on: July 05, 2021, 09:25:36 PM »

https://www.pnas.org/content/107/52/22599

over 10 years out of date. Sea lice near BC Fish farms have developed and continue to develop resistance to sea lice treatment agents.

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« Reply #3388 on: July 08, 2021, 02:12:59 PM »

https://seawestnews.com/aquaculture-main-driver-of-fish-production-globally/

I don't think there is a doubt that there is an ever increasing demand for the product but i think the fish farming industry has dropped the ball a bit.  IMO when international company's are listed on stock exchanges they really start pushing to maximise profits. Each year we need to see attest 7% growth in profits no matter what you do we don't care just get it done.  When you look at ways to do that it you have two options you can increase revenues or you can cut costs. Increased revnus mean more fish farm sites and ever growing. If you cant get more sites approved then you will have to cut costs. How do you do that? more fish in the pens, less staff, less maintenance.

IMO fish farms probably failed to piviot about 10 years ago, should of went with less profit margins looked at ways to build relationships with first nations and have local agreements that worked.

I do support fish farms, IMO they fill a need a need that's not going away but they do need to reinvent themselves in BC.

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