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[AnnieP]

My salmon contain no additives .....thank you very much

You go eat your " modified " super fish

Actually the red "dye" added to the feed of farmed salmon is a nutrient--the same carotenoid (astaxanthin) found in the wild.There is no evidence to suggest this compound is harmful to humans.Though manufactured synthetically it is FDA-approved, and probably more good than bad for you.

[EZ_Rolling]

Get off your soap box and go fishing Annie

[AnnieP]

Get off your soap box and go fishing Annie

I'd love to go fishing thanks...........

[troutbreath]

Nice exaggeration TB. Farmed salmon are fed:

A natural, well-balanced fish feed (fish meal)  important to ensure healthy salmon. Fish feed suppliers produce feed in accordance with Canadian government feed regulations. All ingredients are inspected by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

Carotenoid pigment produces the rich red hue in both wild and farmed salmon. Wild salmon receive this pigment through sources such as krill and other crustaceans; farmed salmon receive this same pigment (astaxanthin and canthaxanthin) in their feed.

Fish are fed a  balanced diet containing oils derived from plants such as soybean and fish as well as fish meal and natural fillers. The fish feed conversion ratio-the amount of feed required to produce a similar weight of fish-is approximately one-to-one. The efficient conversion of feed to weight of fish harvested is key component of sustainable fish farming. In addition  fish feed does not contain any added hormones or steroids.

Fish feed contains:
 


Fish Meal & plant protein

38-50%
 


Fish Oil & plant oil

20-38%
 


Fibre & NFE

1-13%
 


Ash

0%
 


Moisture

7%
 


Vitamins, minerals, pigment

<1%

you forgot SLICE

[AnnieP]

you forgot SLICE

Are you aware that any vegetables you purchase from the USA have been treated with slice ? They use it for market gardening. Hope your not paying extra at the grocery store for "organic" from the USA.  California also sprays it's strawberry crops with a form of nerve gas.  The skin of oranges  has been dyed to get that bright orange color and Apples are "waxed" to make them shiny. Apparently humans like colourful food and insist on it being bright colourful and shiny. Guess what ?? We've been eating chemicals for years.

[Novabonker]

Sidestep Stever:

[troutbreath]

Are you aware that any vegetables you purchase from the USA have been treated with slice ? They use it for market gardening. Hope your not paying extra at the grocery store for "organic" from the USA.  California also sprays it's strawberry crops with a form of nerve gas.  The skin of oranges  has been dyed to get that bright orange color and Apples are "waxed" to make them shiny. Apparently humans like colourful food and insist on it being bright colourful and shiny. Guess what ?? We've been eating chemicals for years.

.....just saying....... you conveniently forgot SLICE in the mix you can add all the other information in with conveniently misrepresenting other foods. Award winning spin but most prefer facts without the garble.

[AnnieP]

.....just saying....... you conveniently forgot SLICE in the mix you can add all the other information in with conveniently misrepresenting other foods. Award winning spin but most prefer facts without the garble.

Conveniently forgot nothing. Slice isn't in the daily food. used minimally on fish being treated for lice. As for misrepresenting other foods perhaps you need to spend less time on farm fish and more time on the foods you actually eat. Nerve gas on Strawberries aired in a documentary just the other night.  The rest is easily found on the internet using google. Try it you might learn something valuable. And I did give you the facts you just prefer to believe some hippy activist lost in the seventies

[AnnieP]

.....just saying....... you conveniently forgot SLICE in the mix you can add all the other information in with conveniently misrepresenting other foods. Award winning spin but most prefer facts without the garble.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/bromide100803.cfm ....................Read it and weep

[shuswapsteve]

I would know what to do with the biology text book.....   are you going to know what to do with a spin cast?  Maybe I can include a lesson.

Considering that you been misinterpreting things lately I am not too sure.  A lesson?  I think I will go with a more experienced teacher on this one, but thanks nonetheless, AF.

[Novabonker]

Another example of how the feedlots are like a giant mosquito......

"Serious salmon farming is coming to Nova Scotia. Wonderful news, you’ve surely heard. Lots of jobs. A few people are against it, of course, but this shouldn’t be a problem — just come-from-aways fretting about the views from their fancy properties.

If that’s how you understand it, think again.

Salmon farming has gone from being a good idea on a modest scale to a pernicious excess worldwide involving noxious chemicals, harm to wild fisheries, lavish taxpayer subsidies and unwholesome government/industry collusion.

What’s coming to Nova Scotia is what’s going awry elsewhere. The recent wipeout of salmon farms in Shelburne Harbour by infectious salmon anemia — after the entire industry in Chile was similarly wiped out — may have perked your attention. The fact that you, the taxpayer, will be paying to restore the operation should perk it even more.

Nova Scotia is late to salmon farming. Our bays are becoming available because of global warming. The fish in the first operations 35 years ago often froze. We have time, in other words, to do it right. Alas, the government, even as it prepares an aquaculture strategy, is giving little indication of that. Applications for cages have been rubber-stamped; regulations run over; a vast coalition of opponents from the commercial fishery, tourism, sports fishing and others wanting a moratorium on open-pen aquaculture until it’s all worked out can’t get the time of day from government, and so on.

Nova Scotia is the next phase of operations for Canada’s salmon farming multinational, Cooke Aquaculture, the largest in North America, which is finding things tricky in its main operations in New Brunswick. Ditto for Loch Duart, bursting out of Scotland, that wants to set up in Eastern Shore bays and inlets.

 

In New Brunswick, Cooke is up for trial on 72 counts of dumping illegal substances after a two-year investigation into dead lobsters by Environment Canada in the salmon farming areas of the Bay of Fundy. Cooke CEO Glenn Cooke and two other executives are named. Penalties are up to three years in jail or a $1-million fine per count or both.

Plus this, from recent hearings of the Senate fisheries committee in Ottawa. In 2010, the New Brunswick Fisheries Department OK’d the use of a powerful chemical called AlphaMax against sea lice in the salmon cages, after some cursory tests. Sea lice are a big problem, and they get progressively immune to the chemicals used against them. They’re also crustaceans, so poisons used against them will affect other shellfish. Suspicious agents from Environment Canada showed up, put dye in the chemical as it was being applied, and followed the plume as far as eight kilometres out, immersing caged lobsters in it as they went. The lobsters all died. A stop was put to its use.

Here’s the kicker. The Harper government is gutting the Fisheries Act and Environment Canada. In future, the committee heard, stopping such activities will be harder, maybe impossible.

There are other problems.

The caged salmon industry trades on the image of the leaping wild salmon. In fact, the nice pink you see on farmed salmon in the stores is food dye (“lucantin pink” from BASF chemicals or “carophyll pink” from Roche pharmaceuticals). In some cases, there are antibiotics and hormones. There was a bust-up in Britain this winter: cautions from health authorities, and a headline in the admittedly over-the-top Daily Mail that proclaimed “pink poison.”

Aquaculture was meant to supplement declining wild stocks of fish. Mostly it has. But in the case of farmed salmon, it takes four to seven kilograms of feed to make one kilogram of salmon. The feed is fishmeal from herring mackerel, anchovies, Arctic krill and others along the food chain. Thus, it’s far more destructive than helpful to the world’s fisheries. Plus, almost invariably, wherever fish farms appear, wild salmon stocks disappear. The St. Mary’s River and others of Eastern Nova Scotia are marked waters if Loch Duart gets its way.

Not least, salmon cages are extremely polluting. It’s like a sewer outfall wherever they establish — from excess feed and feces and sometimes heavy metals, like zinc and copper, from cage de-fouling agents.

And the promise of jobs is largely illusory. According to Susanna Fuller, co-ordinator of the marine divisions of the Ecology Action Centre, even within aquaculture, salmon farming is near the bottom as operations become more automated. She has produced an analysis on behalf of the “responsible aquaculture” coalition. It’s available on the EAC website under “marine.” It was created for the benefit of government. “They weren’t giving us any information, so we gave them some,” she says.

The coalition, which includes most of the commercial fishery, don’t want an end to salmon farming. They want it sustainable, an addition rather than a detriment to the wild fishery — an end, for example, to “open-pen” farming in favour of shore-based pens. The companies complain this is not economically feasible. A big mouthful for an industry which, says Fuller, has a 50 per cent rate of return and is stuffed silly with subsidies."

http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/95565-salmon-farming-an-industry-that-needs-to-be-caged

Now where did I hear that THING ABOUT THE LOBSTER BEDS....... Oh YEAH! I posted the same thing before that was in the "NEWS"?,after listening to fisherman that I grew up with C'mon Golden Orbs, start flinging some insulting diatribe protecting Sidestep. And I was supposed to be embarrassed about asking Sidestep if he ever derived any income from feedlots, while you treat anyone who knows different is an ignoramus and beneath contempt. Boy, talk about making a fool out of ones self.

[troutbreath]

http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/bromide100803.cfm ....................Read it and weep

So just saying..... that they use SLICE to take care of those nasty sea lice.........on occasion, these other guys use some things that .....on occasion .....take care of some other problems? But there is no comparison? Golden coiler award Annie Poo

[shuswapsteve]

Sidestep Stever:

Looks like a picture of you falling to your knees while Dave B. steps by you.  Seems like you have been doing a lot of falling down lately.

[Novabonker]

Looks like a picture of you falling to your knees while Dave B. steps by you.  Seems like you have been doing a lot of falling down lately.

Any time you want to play some rugby, let me know. My team needs a practice dummy and since you're apparently unemployed, we'd be pleased to pass around the hat after to help you out. I can give you a few bucks to mow my lawn and the wife will pay you a bit to scrub the toilet. It all adds up and we'll go through the larder and come with a few cans of beans and maybe some mac and cheese.

Enough about me Sidestep- How are you holding up being unemployed? Cheer up sunshine- Mary Kay sales aren't for everybody.Maybe you could try Amway or something else. I also think you'd make a great burger/ fries dude or sandwich artist as well with that charming personality.Dare to dream!

[AnnieP]

So just saying..... that they use SLICE to take care of those nasty sea lice.........on occasion, these other guys use some things that .....on occasion .....take care of some other problems? But there is no comparison? Golden coiler award Annie Poo

Difference is farmed salmon are starved for one month before they are harvested. Any antibiotic or slice is long gone from their system. Oranges are dyed so dye still present when you purchase, wax still present on apples, Vegetables and fruit are not starved so they contain whatever they have been sprayed with when you purchase them. I for one will never buy those pulpy, tasteless strawberries from California again .