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alwaysfishn

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The HST vote - making a decision
« on: January 25, 2011, 03:35:15 PM »

A new website is up that will allow you to do your research before voting....

http://www.hstinbc.ca/making_your_choice/
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 06:03:55 PM »

Too bad it is still made by the liberals....can't trust them...
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 09:30:31 PM »

Too bad it is still made by the liberals....can't trust them...


That's why you need to research the tax for yourself.

Here's a global news article....  http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html?releasePID=XClESKcBnRvDjMI9Yob0TcQ0t4O8EJGO
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 10:07:07 PM »

A new website is up that will allow you to do your research before voting....

http://www.hstinbc.ca/making_your_choice/
They should have put this out before the last election. Too late for this now, they have dug your own grave on this one.

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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 07:08:58 AM »

really AF? Glowball? That's the station where one of the reporters is knee deep in dung for having her head up Krash Heed's, um, never mind. Global is another arm of the Fiberals. They have as much credibility as Gordnocchio. Best advice when you hear right wing "Liberal" propaganda?
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 02:24:39 PM »

wee i was irst against the HST, but since i am now seeing benefits to the family business, i am for it  ::)
so i say keep it and dont waste the money on this vote thing imo.
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 07:24:58 AM »

oooops - Minor recant on Global- I watched them doing an interview with Christy Clark about some, um, economy with the truth on the BC Rail fiasco that's slowly unraveling for AF's heroes. I don't think Ms. Clark liked being confronted with backed up truth about her denials. The clenched jaw, the fiery eyes and body language suggest the the Liberal train appears to be derailing...so to speak.

my point? Public trust with Liberals and most of the policy they represent is chafing the public the wrong way.

read some stuff here...http://alexgtsakumis.com/
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 10:09:16 AM »

--I like the HST!
--reduced reporting and collection costs so more net tax benefit to provice for same tax collected
--reduced reporting, paying and paperwork for business.. more time to spend running the business.

--I don't like.... how it was introduced so quickly by the same party that denied it would be introduced.
--It is new and should be reviewed... what items that were subject to GST and not to PST are now HST and are these appropriate.

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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 11:01:49 AM »

As far as it affects my business, yes it is easier.

BUT

BC already has the lowest corporate tax regime in Canada or close to there. Canada itself has a very low corporate tax rate. Banks, thanks to Carole Taylor are getting nearly a free ride. When does it stop being unloaded on to the working stiff? Look at the increases in the past 10 years- MSP premiums, pay parking in provincial parks, Hydro increases to pay for ROR,and so much more crap (Google on yourself) that it's just time to say NO MORE TAXES.No more 500,000 photo ops for the figment of site c, no more 28 million Public Affairs Bureau for a government advertising wing, no more million dollar David Hahns, no more 400 million to casinos to redecorate, no more ridiculous wage hikes an equally ridiculous pensions to the Premier and MLA's.Cut back the ridiculous wages paid to retain "The Brightest and The Best"  because all we end up with is people like Paul Taylor making a career of severance pay, no more lowest minimum wage in Canada as corporate gift, no more giveaways to the oil and gas sector.The waste is just plain stupid, nothing else.
Oh, and all these increases to live here started as corporate taxes started dropping in BC...
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2011, 02:57:43 PM »

You'd rather go back to the PST?  Seriously?
HST is a good tax, forget all the party politics and look at the tax (and it's alternative) on their own merits.  You can let your feelings for the Liberals be known at the next election.
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2011, 04:56:10 PM »

What part of responsible government and NO MORE DAMN TAXES is difficult to fathom?
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 06:45:19 PM »

What part of responsible government and NO MORE DAMN TAXES is difficult to fathom?

How does no taxes work?  Are you going to suddenly stop using services and infrastructure?  Are you going to see to it that there will be no cost increases, due to inflation, etc., in providing these services and infrastructure.  No more taxes means no change in service levels (actually, factoring in inflation in means even further reductions to services - explain that to the recipients of funding generated by taxes).  I get it, you hate the Liberals.  You've made your point with all your infantile name-calling.  Now how about sitting down and weighing the pros and cons of HST vs. going back to the PST.  Like I said, you can punish the Liberals come election time.
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 09:43:16 PM »

Are you unable to read or comprehend? I clearly pointed examples of blatant waste and giveaways in the system and I'm "infantile name calling"? Huh? ( your maturity is underwhelming with asinine commentary like that)I guess your getting a little chafed that Gordo's gone or is it that I don't fawn over people that lie to me and the rest of British Columbians? I'll post it again - try reading slower this time. At no point did I say no taxes - R E A D   R E A L  S L O W  THIS TIME - not no taxes, no more and new taxes.

BC already has the lowest corporate tax regime in Canada or close to there. (pre HST) Canada itself has a very low corporate tax rate. Banks, thanks to Carole Taylor are getting nearly a free ride. When does it stop being unloaded on to the working stiff? Look at the increases in the past 10 years- MSP premiums, pay parking in provincial parks, Hydro increases to pay for ROR,and so much more crap (Google on yourself) that it's just time to say NO MORE TAXES.No more 500,000 photo ops for the figment of site c, no more 28 million Public Affairs Bureau for a government advertising wing, no more million dollar David Hahns, no more 400 million to casinos to redecorate, no more ridiculous wage hikes an equally ridiculous pensions to the Premier and MLA's.Cut back the ridiculous wages paid to retain "The Brightest and The Best"  because all we end up with is people like Paul Taylor making a career of severance pay, no more lowest minimum wage in Canada as a corporate gift, no more giveaways to the oil and gas sector.The waste is just plain stupid, nothing else.
Oh, and all these increases to live here started as corporate taxes started dropping like a stone in BC...
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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 11:29:00 PM »

How does no taxes work?  Are you going to suddenly stop using services and infrastructure?  Are you going to see to it that there will be no cost increases, due to inflation, etc., in providing these services and infrastructure.  No more taxes means no change in service levels (actually, factoring in inflation in means even further reductions to services - explain that to the recipients of funding generated by taxes).  I get it, you hate the Liberals.  You've made your point with all your infantile name-calling.  Now how about sitting down and weighing the pros and cons of HST vs. going back to the PST.  Like I said, you can punish the Liberals come election time.

There are a few folks that will never understand taxes no matter how simply it's explained. Perhaps it's because they only think with the left side of their brain....   ;D  and have very little understanding of economics.

For example, low corporate taxes means corporations will prefer to invest in this province, rather than in another province or in the U.S. When corporations invest in this province they create jobs in this province. This gives the citizens of this province jobs and the great lifestyle they enjoy.

Conclusion: While people may pay a little more in taxes, at least they have jobs. Compare this to being unemployed because their employer just moved out of the province due to the government raising corporate taxes.  ???

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Re: The HST vote - making a decision
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2011, 07:52:53 AM »

There are a few folks that will never understand taxes no matter how simply it's explained. Perhaps it's because they only think with the left side of their brain....   ;D  and have very little understanding of economics.Nice little cheap shot AF - I however stick around and respond  instead of running away, unlike YOU know who. Oh, and the last time I checked, I was running a profitable business, based on supply and demand, not how many dollars I got in corporate welfare. I might just have a little understanding, although it's obviously no where near as great as yours, Sire.(sarcasm)

For example, low corporate taxes means corporations will prefer to invest in this province, rather than in another province or in the U.S. When corporations invest in this province they create jobs in this province. This gives the citizens of this province jobs and the great lifestyle they enjoy.And what province led the way -IN JOB LOSSES ???

Tell me old bean - IF there's already one of the lowest tax rates in North America- WHY are we subsidizing ANY business? Oil and gas sector? Ruin of the river? It would appear we already are giving, but not enough to quench the corporate greed.

Conclusion: While people may pay a little more in taxes, at least they have jobs. Compare this to being unemployed because their employer just moved out of the province due to the government raising corporate taxes.  ???

So in conclusion - Although we live in an area abundant with natural resources, some of the lowest tax rates and tons of opportunity, we need to put all taxes on the citizens so head office in New York, Toronto or Chicago can ride for free. All the we end up with this stuff , because it's more important to give to corporations (Does this make you proud of your Liberal team?)
http://www.rcybc.ca/Images/PDFs/Reports/Fragile%20Lives%20-%20FINAL%20Jan%202011.pdf
  or this
 ( the best government money can buy - I left out the giveaway of BC  RAIL - that's taking a nasty turn, isn't it? 6 million to silence criminals?)

The Campbell administration has appointed one of its closest political allies to Port Metro Vancouver's board. According to an information bulletin quietly posted on the government's Website earlier today but not distributed to the media, Independent Contractors and Business Association of British Columbia president Philip Hochstein has been given a seat on that board. Mr. Hochstein's association represents non-unionized contractors and has donated $60,160 to the provincial Liberals between 2005 and 2009. It has also been responsible for third party advertising campaigns that have aligned with the interests of the party and the government. Mr. Hochstein's appointment will expire on February 28, 2014. Port Metro Vancouver is responsible for the operation and development of the assets and jurisdictions of the combined former Fraser River Port Authority, North Fraser Port Authority and Vancouver Port Authority.
I suggest this be read, not skimmed but read. Then respond.






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