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[nosey]

I'm with Chris on this one I thought it was common knowledge that you weren't supposed to use a glove when handling a fish, isn't that tough to tail a fish with your bare hand and if the fish does fall off what's the big deal why even take a chance on damaging one with a glove it's not worth it, you can't land em all. I haven't used a glove in 15 years and I can't think of one fish lost because I was bare handed.

[fish fishburn]

I have never used a glove to tail a fish and I have been fishing for 45 years. I remember when I was 5 or 6 years old my father telling me to always wet your hands before touching a fish. The tailing glove is not required in my books. It is just another piece of useless kit the fishing manufactures have marketed as a must have for fishermen. Maybe the people who use gloves are afraid to touch fish. I'm sure the boa grip will be showing up on your rivers soon if they already haven't. Thats another story for another day, but imaging hanging by your lower jaw to have your picture taken. I'm sure theres alot of dislocated jaws swimming around out there.

[Zach Sanchioni]

I'll let you guys decide whether gloves actually harm fish or not  
Friend does broodstocking, here is a fish that had a tailing glove used on it about 10 days earlier :


Let me remind you, this is in a controlled environment with antiobiotics.
I dunno but I would say that this causes WAY MORE harm that it does good.
I don't care how carefully you handle the fish before, the glove the glove will kill it!
Any argument you can make can't go against this, I would rather have tissue and muscle damage instead of having my skin peel off and rot.

PS Friend DOES NOT ever under any circumstances use a tailing glove. This was done by someone else.....  

LOL just started reading this thread and if that pic is the one I think it is then I tubed that fish (tubed not caught) and no gloves were used and the fish never left water. Just scooped it into the tube in 10'' of water. We were ASKED by the boys at the hatchery if we used a glove on the fish but no gloves were used. Why would we need to the fish was only 4lbs. So I must ask.....where you boys getting your info from?

[lucky]

After reading some of the recent comments in the fish porn I started wondering, are all gloves bad? I mean just last week on tv I watched a well known BC fisherman fishing for coho and steelhead on the Skeena, he would NOT land a fish unless he had his tailing glove on.

I can understand how a wool glove would remove alot of slime but are the neoprene gloves bad? Would a fish lose any slime if it is handled without a glove? And lets face it not everyone is going to keep a fish in the water when taking a photo, wouldn't the chances of dropping a fish be lessened by using a glove?

When a fish wraps itself in the line and removes scales does it lose slim as well?, and if so wouldn't this kill the fish almost instantly?
 

[Fish or cut bait.]

no gloves were used and the fish never left water

That doesn't mean it wasn't tailed and released with a glove prior to your catch and tube.

Would a fish lose any slime if it is handled without a glove? And lets face it not everyone is going to keep a fish in the water when taking a photo, wouldn't the chances of dropping a fish be lessened by using a glove?

When a fish wraps itself in the line and removes scales does it lose slim as well?, and if so wouldn't this kill the fish almost instantly?

Yes, it certainly could lose slime when tailed without a glove but the point is to minimize these losses and any potential damage to the fish if it is to be released.
The protective slime will come back but in severe cases it might not come back fast enough (if too large an area has been exposed) to prevent infection.
REMEMBER: you might not be the first,or second for that matter, to catch any particular fish; particularily when there are catch and release rules for wild stock.
Fish lose slime and scales all the time and then heal (ever caught a fish with a scar?) but if you keep picking at a scab; sooner or later it's going to get infected if not allowed to heal.

HANDLE YOUR FISH WITH CARE.

We can't eliminate it entirely but we certainly can reduce these extra  stresses we put on the fish by doing it without gloves.

[Ssypark]

BUMP

[younggun]

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[hotrod]

A glove is an unnecessary tool in my tackle box! It is my opinion, and experience, that when a fish is played out properly it can be landed for a fairly nice n easy tailing. A quick photo or rock shampoo and away the fish goes! It is really quite simple and can never understand why a glove is needed, given all the damage it does! I have seen it first hand.

  hotrod

[Schenley]

Never ,never NEVER use a glove on any fish you plan to release.  What is so hard to understand here?

[Johnny Canuck]

Just aches my heart to see youtube videos or tv shows from northern BC or Alaska and everyone is using a tailing glove or wearing wool gloves to keep their hands warm.



WHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!???

[Robsrsx]

How so?
First of all fish do not feel pain. They do not have the part of the brain required for pain.
By damaging the outer covering of slime you are exposing scales, etc to fungus and other diseases.
Steelhead don't always die either, they remain in freshwater longer than salmon and need to make it out to the ocean, so they need as much help as they can get!

IMO I would say the scales and protective slime of the fish is the highest priority besides them breathing.
Everything you listed will do less damage to a fish than removing the very thing that is keeping it healthy and alive.

How hard is it to remove your glove?
Really, I wish people would give their heads a shake and think logically for once.....

how  do  you  know  fish  don't feel  pain, are  you  a  fish? you  have  nothing  to  back  that  up, imho  all  living  things  feel  pain, animals  like your  pets, dogs,  cats  etc.  how  is  a  fish  different?  Just because  we  don't  know what a  fish  in  pain  looks like dosn't  mean  its  not  hurting, think  about  it

[Johnny Canuck]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2983045.stm

Lots of info out there regarding studies and such. Some going one way others going the opposite.


Feeling pain or not feeling pain it doesn't matter. Slime loss can cause infection and that infection can cause death.

[Every Day]

how  do  you  know  fish  don't feel  pain, are  you  a  fish? you  have  nothing  to  back  that  up, imho  all  living  things  feel  pain, animals  like your  pets, dogs,  cats  etc.  how  is  a  fish  different?  Just because  we  don't  know what a  fish  in  pain  looks like dosn't  mean  its  not  hurting, think  about  it

Fish's brains are not capable of feeling "pain." There have been studies published on this (that I'v read through school - I can try and find them again in you really need it).
Your "opinion" in that case doesn't matter. If you can come up with scientific backing for your statement, then feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

There have been multiple studies where fish have shown a reaction to something (such as bee venom), but that is most likely due to handling, etc (if it wasn't, why would fish eat bee's, crayfish, spiders, etc). They are more than capable of seeing, so anything you do to them will freak them out and get a reaction.

Try simply ripping a fish's gills out one day (sound brutal, I know). You would think if they felt pain, they would freak out if someone just ripped their lungs out. They don't, they just lie there and seem to calm down as soon as you take your hands off them.

[Johnny Canuck]

Fish's brains are not capable of feeling "pain."
There have been multiple studies where fish have shown a reaction to something, but that is most likely due to handling, etc.
They are more than capable of seeing, so anything you do to them will freak them out.

Actually ED the spinal column is what senses pain and then that is sent to your brain where it's deciphered that its pain. Once deciphered then the body reacts to it.

[Every Day]

Actually ED the spinal column is what senses pain and then that is sent to your brain where it's deciphered that its pain. Once deciphered then the body reacts to it.

Exactly, your brain interprets it. Same difference. Fish do not have the brain capabilities of higher organisms.